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Aspects of the Dragonball series that piss you off
Topic Started: Mar 18 2008, 02:02 PM (2,932 Views)
ueharakk
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Mcgeezle
Nov 23 2008, 10:59 AM
For me, it always has been and always will be the way they like to mournfully/powerfully cry or whimper each others names randomly, for example when Gohan was fighting cell and then the screen switches to Piccolo who randomly murmured "Gohan..." I always found it pointless and annoying.
That, and the fact that no matter how angry the opponents are with each other, they seem to always manage to take a pause to share banter with each other about their power levels, fighting styles, or boasting about what they'll be like when they power up enough (Cell)
Surely if they were that pissed with each other, the INSANE amounts of testosterone that must be flowing through their veins to make them so bulky and competitive would make sure there was no chitchat, just 24mins of men, women and children beating the ***** out of each other.
I completely agree with that.
It's pointless and pathetic when they always do that whenever someone gets smacked around.

I also don't like the fact that the fight between goku and frieza the most violent and destructive out of all the fights. I mean, in the anime, there were planets being blown up from stray ki blasts, but in the fight of cell and gohan, the biggest crater was when cell used his force field!

I think they should have let the Z warriors fight in space once they attained a certain powerlevel, so they could actually use thier powers to its full extent. Like Kamehameha waves actually destroying solar systems.

That would be the sh*t.
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Dec 14 2008, 10:52 PM
I have to agree with the original poster about the power levels. How is it that more powerful characters and enemies come along in exact succession to each other? What if Majin Buu just showed up during the Frieza Saga and whooped everyone's ***** and killed them all? There would be no show anymore lol.

And yeah, the only way any bad guy was killed was someone reaching a new power level after being really outmatched or someone sacrificed themselves, there was no creativeness to their attempt at killing the bad guy. It would start out even or outmatched, then the bad guy would transform and kick ***** then a good guy would transform and it would be even or more strong, then the bad guy would transform again and kick everyone's ***** again. It got so predictable.

IMO, they should've had Gohan end up being the most powerful or something, that could've been interesting.

So, my major gripes are just about the power levels, it seems like Dragonball became just about reaching new power levels rather than being creative.

If anything, I would rather not have them make a new series, but pretend like DB GT never happened and start a new series from the end of DBZ, taking the place of DB GT.
Well, Akira was planning to have Gohan take Goku's place at the end of the cell saga, thus, having Goku pass away to the other world, however, supposdly he got a lot of fans that didn't like the idea and that wanted Goku to remain the main fighter. Personally, I would have prefered Gohan over Goku because now that he's passed away for good, its only natural that his son take his place as the protector of earth.
In terms of aspects that pissed me off:
- Some of the fights should have been longer such as SS3 Goku vs. Majin Buu. I wanted to see more of the new techniques he had and more of the power.
- Some sagas took too long to do, I mean the buu saga was something along the lines of 80 episodes or so.
- I have to agree that more of the fights were won by higher power and levels than strategy, but, I mean what kind of strategy would you guys have the fighters use against someone as powerful as these villains? You guys are forgetting that the villains are pretty strong and aren't stupid to fall into traps. The only time I saw some strategy being used was when Gotanks fought against Majin Buu in the hyperbolic time chamber with the ghosts talking about food and then blowing themselves up once Buu got close, it was just hilarious, can't believe he fell for that :p
- Mystic Gohan gets beaten by Majin Buu after he absorbs SS3 Gotanks and Piccolo. I mean why were they so reckless against Buu? I would have liked it if Mystic Gohan defeated Buu then and there, then that would have shown that Goku was indeed gone, instead of coming back later and since Dendei is alive, they can revive everyone.
- I think the Great Saiyaman Saga was too small. I think that they should have made more episodes. I mean it took something along the lines of 5-6 episodes for Videl to find that Gohan is the Great Saiyaman. I admit he was careless a lot of the time, but, come on. They should have made another 5-6 episodes before having her discover his identity.
- Finally, I think transformations should have been longer :p I mean I enjoyed seeing Goku's SS3 transformation a lot more than the faster transformations in previous episodes. The longer the transformation takes, the more power it requires which could be used to show that SS3 > SS2 > SS if you see my point :)
Edited by BigFan, Feb 4 2009, 06:23 PM.
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Like a lot of people I don't much care for the filler. Sometimes it's neat hear the characters different opinions on the situation but DBZ really went overkill with it. I also hate when they cut away from the fight to show what characters elsewhere are doing, especially since it's usually completely irrelevant to the situation and clearly comes off as a cheap way to drag the series out further.

I was also unhappy that they crossed Garlik Jr. over into the TV series. Not only that but his little mini-saga was completely terrible (Much like most of the non-comic original episodes).

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Edited by Ranma, Feb 4 2009, 06:31 PM.
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Ranma
Feb 4 2009, 06:30 PM
Like a lot of people I don't much care for the filler. Sometimes it's neat hear the characters different opinions on the situation but DBZ really went overkill with it. I also hate when they cut away from the fight to show what characters elsewhere are doing, especially since it's usually completely irrelevant to the situation and clearly comes off as a cheap way to drag the series out further.

I was also unhappy that they crossed Garlik Jr. over into the TV series. Not only that but his little mini-saga was completely terrible (Much like most of the non-comic original episodes).

Edit: Typo
The whole cutting away was to show you how others are reacting to what they see. Remember that they haven't witnessed this much power before :)
Forgot to add that last thing that somewhat pissed me off is that they were quick to react when the enemy was on the ground. For example, Mystic Gohan smacked Majin Buu and he fell on the ground, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo thought it was over like that, I mean come on, do they really think Buu will be that easy to defeat or even in the cell saga, Trunks, Krillin, Yamacha and Tien did that a lot of the time :p
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BigFan
Feb 4 2009, 06:34 PM
Ranma
Feb 4 2009, 06:30 PM
Like a lot of people I don't much care for the filler. Sometimes it's neat hear the characters different opinions on the situation but DBZ really went overkill with it. I also hate when they cut away from the fight to show what characters elsewhere are doing, especially since it's usually completely irrelevant to the situation and clearly comes off as a cheap way to drag the series out further.

I was also unhappy that they crossed Garlik Jr. over into the TV series. Not only that but his little mini-saga was completely terrible (Much like most of the non-comic original episodes).

Edit: Typo
The whole cutting away was to show you how others are reacting to what they see. Remember that they haven't witnessed this much power before :)
Forgot to add that last thing that somewhat pissed me off is that they were quick to react when the enemy was on the ground. For example, Mystic Gohan smacked Majin Buu and he fell on the ground, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo thought it was over like that, I mean come on, do they really think Buu will be that easy to defeat or even in the cell saga, Trunks, Krillin, Yamacha and Tien did that a lot of the time :p
Yeah I know. I just feel like DBZ overdoes it a bit too much. Sometimes it's actually interesting or even informative. Other times it's clearly just padding. :(


Edit: Oh yeah, remembered another thing that always bugged me about DBZ. I mentioned it in another thread but it always bugged me that after the Cell saga, No.18 was always portrayed as helpless and needing to be saved by Krillin. This happened during the Buu saga, Movie 11 and even the new OVA. She should be the one saving him!
Edited by Ranma, Feb 5 2009, 01:52 AM.
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Feb 5 2009, 01:17 AM
BigFan
Feb 4 2009, 06:34 PM
Ranma
Feb 4 2009, 06:30 PM
Like a lot of people I don't much care for the filler. Sometimes it's neat hear the characters different opinions on the situation but DBZ really went overkill with it. I also hate when they cut away from the fight to show what characters elsewhere are doing, especially since it's usually completely irrelevant to the situation and clearly comes off as a cheap way to drag the series out further.

I was also unhappy that they crossed Garlik Jr. over into the TV series. Not only that but his little mini-saga was completely terrible (Much like most of the non-comic original episodes).

Edit: Typo
The whole cutting away was to show you how others are reacting to what they see. Remember that they haven't witnessed this much power before :)
Forgot to add that last thing that somewhat pissed me off is that they were quick to react when the enemy was on the ground. For example, Mystic Gohan smacked Majin Buu and he fell on the ground, Trunks, Goten and Piccolo thought it was over like that, I mean come on, do they really think Buu will be that easy to defeat or even in the cell saga, Trunks, Krillin, Yamacha and Tien did that a lot of the time :p
Yeah I know. I just feel like DBZ overdoes it a bit too much. Sometimes it's actually interesting or even informative. Other times it's clearly just padding. :(


Edit: Oh yeah, remembered another thing that always bugged me about DBZ. I mentioned it in another thread but it always bugged me that after the Cell saga, No.18 was always portrayed as helpless and needing to be saved by Krillin. This happened during the Buu saga, Movie 11 and even the new OVA. She should be the one saving him!
Interesting point that you make. I've never seen movie 11 and ova so I'll reserve my judgement and base it on the anime. I don't think she plays as helpless as you think, you should remember that she did enter the tournament even when Goku, Gohan and Vegeta who were superior to her did, so, she was planning to put up a good fight. She's also married and has a child, plus she hasn't fought in sometime, so, I would assume that makes her weaker. Also, the responsibility of protection usually goes to the father first then the mother. As for the buu saga, Krillin was the one who decided to attack buu and give his family and friends a chance to run. For all we know, Yamacha might have jumped in instead or someone else. Finally, No. 18 might have even decided to jump in herself if no one else volunteered :)
@ueharakk I would also love to see them fight in space. As you mentioned, there will be less limitations, but, then how would you go on about making them breath without a spacesuit? :=]:
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Well, I'm new...so Hi :)
And I'm also new to the series, so I'll just complain about what I've ran into watching the show so far....


-Constant cries for Goku. Really, why does it happen EVERY battle. The battle starts, the "OMG! I've never felt this much power! It's insane!" is said by Krillen and Piccolo and than everyone takes a beating. Then thay're all crying "Goku, where are you?", And Goku is on his way, just not there yet. Than everyone dies, and Goku powers up and wins! [sarcasm] Hooray! Cause we've never seen that one before! [/sarcasm]

-Than the sudden change of Piccolo. At the very begining of DBZ. I LOVED him. He was my favorite by miles. He was just imensley cool and could put up a good fight with anyone. Even though he was fatherly toward Gohan, it didn't take away from his personality other than turn him good.
Well a couple of seasons later...his voice has changed even though it's voiced by the same guy, and he has become just a twisted version of everyone else. And everyone else get kicked backseat by THE ALL POWERFUL SUPER SAIYANS and they're power level of 92304857389457349573975. It's neverending.
I guess I just wish the heroisim was divided equally among everyone instead of relying soley on Saiyans.
It would make the show more enjoyable as a whole. I for one love character development more than four epsiodes of powering up. I wished that would be cut, and let some other characters take a step into the spoitllight and do something beastly.
Edited by leslieyellow, Apr 4 2009, 10:00 PM.
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Byakko
Apr 23 2008, 07:32 PM
constipated
Classic Byakko, relating the word constipated to DBZ in a way that actually makes sense.

In other news...There are a few things that annoy me but it's mainly that there isn't enough Videl :D ^_^

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I'd say the only thing that ever made me angry about the show would be the quality of the animation sometimes. Sometimes the stuff would look horrid and then other times it looked godly. Like in SS2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta. There are scenes where the pair looked perfect, and then there were other scnes of that big fight that looked like they were xrawn by a little kid. I can understand that more effort is put into some episodes than others, but come on, the difference is almost shameful and during serious fights, its makes the battle just seem boring due to the lack of effort.
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The voices
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Trickster
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Nothing really pissed me off. But i didn't like how there was always someone stronger. they would beat someone, that was the strongest in the universe. then the next episode the new strongest in the universe shows up, and somehow they know about him, but forgot when they thought they took out the strongest. and i didn't like how fast the saiyans power went up, almost right off the bat the rest of the z fighters were usless.
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gohan in the beginning would not shut the hell up he was always whinning

thats bout the only thing that pissed me off
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I didn't like it when a character (for example, Captain Ginyu) laughs for too long - it ends up being way too forced...

And also, I didn't like in the english translation how the voice actors changed and the dbz music changed randomly half way through the second series - what the hell is with that!
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Rampaging Explosion of Euphoric Glory!

don't forget, everyone sounds as if they are having an orgasim whenever they are scared or power up, or sound constipated especially this part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnznJBWhDKw
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Apr 24 2009, 01:29 PM
don't forget, everyone sounds as if they are having an orgasim whenever they are scared or power up, or sound constipated especially this part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnznJBWhDKw
lol true that! :D
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