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Saiyan tails?
Topic Started: Mar 10 2008, 12:00 PM (4,549 Views)
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well ur explainations a bit off. If they got genes form the mother they wouldn't be able to go super saiyan so easily. Gohan had a tail when he was bron so we can assume goten did as well. Plus i think there was a scene of trunks with his tail as a baby, if not then it's still likly he did.

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I don't remember baby Trunks having a tail.

I guess the only true answer to this is Akira just not wanting to complicate things. My conclusion anyway.
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dont forget that the earth didnt have a moon,or any scorce of blutz waves when trunks and goten were born,so really there ws no reason to remove the tails ^_^
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well ur explainations a bit off. If they got genes form the mother they wouldn't be able to go super saiyan so easily. Gohan had a tail when he was bron so we can assume goten did as well. Plus i think there was a scene of trunks with his tail as a baby, if not then it's still likly he did.

Gene for havign a tail could be different than the ones to go Super Saiyan? Am I right? Of curse I am. A baby could end up with Blonde hair like the mother, and brown eyes like the father... it's possible. So My point was not flawed at all, it was kept on to reality ^_^

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Goten Trunks Bulla & Pan were never born with TAILS
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goten and trunks had to be born with tails. if the tail gene is dominant, than only one copy is needed for it to be expressed in the child, but if it is recessive, then 2 copies must be present. therefore, since gohan was born with a tail, and we know he only had one copy of the gene, the gene is dominant, so goten and trunks and bra would all have been born with tails, because they would have gotten 1 copy of the gene from their fathers. pan could have been born without a tail, because her father only has 1 copy of the gene, and therefore only has a 50% chance of passing that gene on. goku jr. and vegeta jr. definitely were born without tails, since the chance of the gene being passed down all those generations would be microscopic.
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Did Goku have his tail when he did the nasty for Gohan?
Coz Gohan had a tail...

Imagine a super saiyan doing "the nasty" lolzor
in the end, i think chichi and bulma would be like, asleep for 3 days and extremely achy for 2 weeks and probably won't be able to walk for a month

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Why dont you guys just say they had sex?
Anyway

The tail gene cant be recessive because a Saiyan's tail is what defines them genetically. Its part of their structure and being. A full blooded Saiyan like Goku just doesnt magically lose his tail genetics because it was removed.

Thats like saying a human got his hand chopped off and so since he only had one hand he passed that trait down to his son. Thats not right at all.

Offspring inherit desirable characteristics from the father and mother.
They inherit their tail as it makes them stronger and more likely to survive just as they inherit the Saiyan super strength and abilities.

They had to have been born with tails cause it makes no sense otherwise.
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Or they just cut´d them off when they were born, since everyone knows what happened´s when it is full moon.

I mean we didn´t saw what happened when they were born right?
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^ Yeah, and it's not like they talk about things they did seven years ago so why should we even expect it to be mentioned.
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Holy hell, you're all getting so technical with this gene crap that one could argue it was impossible for their children to even exist, considering only members of the same species can reproduce.

Just because a gene is dominant does NOT mean for sure it is going to show up, either.
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has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe Trunks just bought his sword somewhere or something? There's nothing really special about it.

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Well it did manage to slice Frieza into a shishkebab so it must've been packing more power than your average blade. Hell even Zelda's sword couldn't pull off that ****.



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Goten, Trunks and Pan didn't have tails simply because Toriyama didn't want to draw them with tails.
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I read somewhere that Toriyama personally stated that Saiyan tails are a recessive trait, implying that Goten and Trunks were never born with tails.

While personally unsure of above statement, I would assume that even if they were born with tails, like Gohan, they would most likely just have been removed upon birth, as both mothers had known enough about the Oozaru thing.
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I read somewhere that Toriyama personally stated that Saiyan tails are a recessive trait, implying that Goten and Trunks were never born with tails.

While personally unsure of above statement, I would assume that even if they were born with tails, like Gohan, they would most likely just have been removed upon birth, as both mothers had known enough about the Oozaru thing.
if toriyama said that, he's a dumbass. a recessive gene is only expressed if 2 copies are present, meaning gohan wouldnt have a tail. therefore, the tail gene is dominant. also, two genetically similar species can interbreed, but usually produce sterile offspring. case in point, the offspring of donkeys and horses are sterile mules, while the offspring off dogs and coyotes or wolves are fertile.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Apparently, there is no answer to this question. In a Shonen Jump interview, Toriyama DID say that tails are a recessive trait, which I assume could be bull according to genetic technicalities.

However, on the other hand. I haven't read the entire DBZ manga, but apparently there is a scene where Bulma tells the curious Krillin that she intentionally cut off Trunks' tail when he was but a baby. If this is true, then it would just be another paradox that the series happened to accidentally create.
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