Full Power Frieza vs 1st Stage Cell

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Full Power Frieza vs 1st Stage Cell
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* Ben14	Feb 9 2008, 03:41 PM Post #16
Posts: 2,103 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,870 Joined: November 4, 2006 Gender Male Country United States	SS Goku (Frieza Saga) > Frieza (full power) SS Vegeta (Android Saga) > SS Goku (Frieza Saga) Android 17/18 > SS Vegeta (Android Saga) 1st Stage Cell > Android 17/18 There you go.



Sam	Feb 9 2008, 11:20 PM Post #17
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	No. In the Manga Android 16 stated that there was two powers fighting (Piccolo w/ Kami and Cell) and "one of them rivals the strength of both of you (Androids 17/18). Since Piccolo was obviously beating Cell by a mile, Piccolo was clearly the more powerful one. However, Cell was still classified as a "powerful chi".
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* Ben14	Feb 10 2008, 12:54 AM Post #18
Posts: 2,103 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,870 Joined: November 4, 2006 Gender Male Country United States	"Powerful chi"? What does that mean exactly?



The Passenger	Feb 10 2008, 01:53 AM Post #19
Posts: 138 Group: Member Member #3,177 Joined: January 23, 2008	DEMONHUNTER "Powerful chi"? What does that mean exactly? that he was strong but not quite there...



Reapper	Feb 10 2008, 01:59 PM Post #20
Posts: 16 Group: New Member Member #3,251 Joined: February 4, 2008	Off Topic: is there an acurate site with power lvls from DBZ and DBGT i found the power lvls on Ultimate DBZ and Planet DBZ are the same. But on the other site with DBGT power lvls they are diffrent.



The Passenger	Feb 10 2008, 11:03 PM Post #21
Posts: 138 Group: Member Member #3,177 Joined: January 23, 2008	no,ecause the only acc. power readings were done by scouters,the rest are speculations.



+ Rebel X	Feb 10 2008, 11:24 PM Post #22
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Reapper Feb 10 2008, 08:59 AM Off Topic: is there an acurate site with power lvls from DBZ and DBGT i found the power lvls on Ultimate DBZ and Planet DBZ are the same. But on the other site with DBGT power lvls they are diffrent. I think if your go to(search) Dragonball City that website is accurate. You can tell the powerlevels because Akira Toriyama actually wrote those, but in GT he didn't so noone really is sure 100% what the levels were. ON TOPIC: If you look at the powerlevels it explains it. Frieza lost against SSJ Goku and SSJ Trunks. It toke SSJ Vegeta most of his energy to stand against android 19 and 20(dr. gero). Vegeta didn't stand a chance against 18 or 17. #17 and #18 are both weaker than Cell. Which makes Cell more powerful than Frieza. P.S. I hope we're talkin about imperfect cell stage one and not when he was in the lab and stuff



* Mitas	Feb 11 2008, 10:32 AM Post #23
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	We are talking about the very First Stage Cell, as in before he absorbed 17 & 18. The fact that Piccolo/Kami were all but beaten by Cell, and that a Super Namek is assumably as powerful as a Super Saiyan, shows us that Cell would most probably have beaten Frieza.
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Tien_kikoho	Feb 11 2008, 10:55 AM Post #24
Posts: 44 Group: Member Member #2,938 Joined: December 6, 2007	Cell would have information about Frieza's abilities, his weakness, special attacks and that would enable him to predict Frieza's moves. This is because he inherited his cells as well. Not only that, he has cells of battle hardened and highly talented warriors like - 1. Goku - Martial arts skills, determination, Kame Ha Meha wave. 2. Tienshinhan - He may not be very powerful but look at his variety of techniques. Cell himself uses solar flare to escape a few times. Also displays the triform technique. 3. Piccolo - ability to regenerate, superior mind, energy blasts like Special Beam Cannon. 4. Vegeta - Most notably his self confidence and lust for revenge which can be a huge moral booster in a battle. This factor alone will turn the battle in favour of Cell.



Tien_kikoho	Feb 11 2008, 11:12 AM Post #25
Posts: 44 Group: Member Member #2,938 Joined: December 6, 2007	Corrupt[ed ,Feb 9 2008, 11:20 PM] No. In the Manga Android 16 stated that there was two powers fighting (Piccolo w/ Kami and Cell) and "one of them rivals the strength of both of you (Androids 17/18). Since Piccolo was obviously beating Cell by a mile, Piccolo was clearly the more powerful one. However, Cell was still classified as a "powerful chi". I don't know but it did seem that Cell was weaker than Piccolo during their fisrt meeting. Cell kept running away. But we don't know how weak Cell was as compared to Piccolo. I say this because after Cell escapes by using Solar flare, he goes on to absorb human beings and then he easily defeats both Piccolo and 17. Now, an average human being's power level is only 5. Cell would absorb humans to gain power and after about 30,000 humans he finally was much stronger then piccolo. 30,000* 5 = 150,000 so does this mean that the difference between Piccolo and Cell when they first met was only 150,000 ? That would actually mean that Cell and Piccolo were very even the first time because both of their powers are in the order of 100 millions and 150,000 is pretty small compared to that.



+ Rebel X	Feb 11 2008, 11:33 AM Post #26
Posts: 11,612 Group: Legend Member #88 Joined: January 16, 2005	Tien_kikoho Feb 11 2008, 06:12 AM I don't know but it did seem that Cell was weaker than Piccolo during their fisrt meeting. Cell kept running away. But we don't know how weak Cell was as compared to Piccolo. Yeah i agree with that part i think piccolo when fused with Kami was stronger than Cell(Imperfect 1) and I think Kamicolo is stronger than a SSJ but def. not stronger than SS2 or anything



* Mitas	Feb 11 2008, 12:19 PM Post #27
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Cell wasn't weaker than Piccolo/Kami, it was only when Krillin and Trunks came as back up that he fleed. And I agree that Cell had the superior knowledge of the Z Fighters and Frieza. Plus, like Tien_kikoho said he would know Frieza's special attacks and strategy and could exploit this.
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Tien_kikoho	Feb 12 2008, 07:12 AM Post #28
Posts: 44 Group: Member Member #2,938 Joined: December 6, 2007	SSJ-Mitas Feb 11 2008, 12:19 PM Cell wasn't weaker than Piccolo/Kami, it was only when Krillin and Trunks came as back up that he fleed. And I agree that Cell had the superior knowledge of the Z Fighters and Frieza. Plus, like Tien_kikoho said he would know Frieza's special attacks and strategy and could exploit this. Well, it did seem like Cell is weak because Cell was seen backing away from piccolo even prior to arrival of Trunks and Krillin. Krillin's PL is negligible compared to cell and trunks is quite weak as well. So it's not like they would make any difference. Yet you rarely see cell becoming nervous and he is always having a smug look on his face. I think one of the reasons as to why he was backing away and wanted to escape could be that he was avoiding confrontation and waste energy by fighting with any of the Z warriors. In the beginning, Cell was single-minded and just stuck to absorbing the androids. He is not interested in engaging any warrior irrespective of whether they are more or less powerful than him. We see piccolo saying "my strength exceeds yours by far" but then again it may be because Piccolo was underestimating Cell's strength and his true potentials. Cell survived powerful attacks from Piccolo. As I said, the same cell was able to beat Piccolo(who must have lost fraction of his power after fighting 17) easily after absorbing 30000 human beings. Absorbing 30000 human beings would not give him a huge Zenkai boost as an average human has a pl of only 5. Now a power level boost of 150,000 does not mean anything at this stage when power level is in the order of 100 millions. This actually means that Piccolo and Cell were not very far in terms of Power level. Piccolo was just a little stronger. I however do think that if there was a battle between Piccolo and Cell at this stage, it could have gone wither way because you can't ignore the fact that Cell has way too many attacks up his sleeve which he has inherited from many warriors and he also has understanding about Piccolo's way of fighting. That might actually allow Cell to bridge the small gap. Fusion with Kami raised Piccolo's power but it does not mean Piccolo learned any kind of new way of fighting (like he did by fusing with nail) as Kami is not a warrior.



Sam	Feb 12 2008, 11:21 AM Post #29
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	SSJ-Mitas Feb 11 2008, 07:19 AM Cell wasn't weaker than Piccolo/Kami, it was only when Krillin and Trunks came as back up that he fleed. And I agree that Cell had the superior knowledge of the Z Fighters and Frieza. Plus, like Tien_kikoho said he would know Frieza's special attacks and strategy and could exploit this. No. Before Kuririn/Trunks even arrived Piccolo said that he was stronger than Cell and he had no chance, and Cell remarked something like, "True, I'll have to retreat, for now." And Piccolo laughed and mocked him and said "Do you really think I'll let you do that?" or something along those lines. Then Trunks/Kuririn came down and Cell said to himself "Trunks!? He's alive? Oh well, I killed him once, I'll kill him again!". Then he had a short chat with Piccolo/Kuririn/Trunks (Kuririn was scared by the fact Cell could talk), then, he yelled that he would absorb #17 and #18, used a Taiyoken ("Solar Flare" for people who watch the Anime) and got away.
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Jim23	Aug 3 2008, 08:36 PM Post #30
Posts: 42 Group: Member Member #3,595 Joined: July 28, 2008 What Browser do you use? Mozilla FireFox	Sell stage 1 would win, for all the other reasons.
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