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Salza vs Zarbon
Topic Started: Dec 9 2007, 08:02 PM (3,456 Views)
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These two look to be the right hand men of both Frieza and Cooler so which do you think would win in a fight? Bearing in mind Zarbon has his transformation and such.
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salza wouldnt haver a chance against Zarbon if he is transformed or not.This would be a quck fight.
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Wrong.

Salza and Zarbon may both be the right-hand men of Frieza and Cooler, but that doesn't in any way mean that they're remotely close in terms of strength.

Let me explain how this would work. Zarbon, transformed or not, couldn't handle Vegeta in the Namek Saga. Goku was SO much more powerful than Vegeta was in the Namek Saga when he arrives on Planet Namek in the Ginyu Saga. He's also able to take on all of the Ginyu Force, who are all about twice as strong as Zarbon was in his transformed state. The movie Cooler's Revenge, while not cannon, is supossed to take place after the Frieza Saga when Goku arrives back on Earth and they begin their time of peace. That means that Goku would've only gotten stronger, since he's already learned his Instand Transmission move from the people on Planet Yardrat. When Goku fights Salza after Cooler arrives, he isn't able to beat him. In fact, Salza doesn't die until the end of the movie. This logic would dictate that Salza could probably defeat Zarbon in his transformed state with his pinky. No joke.
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Dec 9 2007, 07:17 PM
Wrong.

Salza and Zarbon may both be the right-hand men of Frieza and Cooler, but that doesn't in any way mean that they're remotely close in terms of strength.

Let me explain how this would work. Zarbon, transformed or not, couldn't handle Vegeta in the Namek Saga. Goku was SO much more powerful than Vegeta was in the Namek Saga when he arrives on Planet Namek in the Ginyu Saga. He's also able to take on all of the Ginyu Force, who are all about twice as strong as Zarbon was in his transformed state. The movie Cooler's Revenge, while not cannon, is supossed to take place after the Frieza Saga when Goku arrives back on Earth and they begin their time of peace. That means that Goku would've only gotten stronger, since he's already learned his Instand Transmission move from the people on Planet Yardrat. When Goku fights Salza after Cooler arrives, he isn't able to beat him. In fact, Salza doesn't die until the end of the movie. This logic would dictate that Salza could probably defeat Zarbon in his transformed state with his pinky. No joke.

Goku never had a chance to fight Salza at the beginning of the movie, cooler cut it short, besides its not like Goku was maxed out when he fought him, Goku never fights seriously at the start of a fight, he tests his opponents.

And anyway, Goku is way stronger than piccolo at the point, as we know, Goku did a better job at fighting Frieza in his final form than piccolo did fighting his 3rd and Piccolo was beating Salza pretty easily in that movie.

I know this isn't about whether Goku can beat Salza in base form, which he easily could. I just felt like pointing the flaw in your argument.


Anyways, I think it would be an interesting match up, as you're never really shown how strong Salza is
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Wooo hooo a heated debate! My work here is done.. =D
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Hands Down Salza! Not even a close battle that is just my opinion mostly is!
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Thats true we don't know Salza's true strength but u can figure that since Cooler was stronger then his brother he wouldn't have the same strength of underlings either so I would still say that Salza would win this one pat
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Dec 17 2007, 08:54 PM
Thats true we don't know Salza's true strength but u can figure that since Cooler was stronger then his brother he wouldn't have the same strength of underlings either so I would still say that Salza would win this one pat

That doesn't really prove much... it just show predictability in the dbz writers plot...
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That doesn't really prove much... it just show predictability in the dbz writers plot...


But the thing is u can't disprove it either..... The thing is it is only natural to be looking for the strongest people to be ur underlings so it makes perfect sense
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Pickles.

From what I remember, Piccolo tore Salza apart if you know what I mean. Vegeta defeated Zarbon, but was weaker than Piccolo at the time. Salza was able to survive until the end before he got killed. Zarbon on the other hand died quite quickly. So I'm not too sure, but I think that Salza would win.
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Dec 9 2007, 08:02 PM
These two look to be the right hand men of both Frieza and Cooler so which do you think would win in a fight? Bearing in mind Zarbon has his transformation and such.

First of all, Cooler probably had to have stronger henchmen, just to be better than Freeza. While the Ginyu force was Frieza's elite force, the cooler squadron was well cooler's elite force at least thats what it seems like to me since he took them and only them along with him to fight the group who KILLED his multimillion power brother and father along with their elites, lieutenants and regular fighters. Goku in his base form could not defeat the three of them. All three of Coolers men were capable of keeping up with Goku. None of the Ginyu Force could keep up with Goku except Ginyu. Now do note that the Goku in the Cooler movie is much stronger than the Goku that faced Freeza, who is much stronger than the Goku (PL 90,000, Kaioken 180,000) who faced Ginyu. So the fact that Cooler's men can fight Goku on his base level shows their superiority. Cooler's men also beat up Krillin and Gohan badly even though they had become much stronger after fights on Namek. I would say they were as strong as And Sauza was not as powerful as Piccolo, but he did survive him. And Piccolo was quite powerful at this stage. All this leads me to believe that Sauza being the leader of Coolers armed squadron was more powerful than Captain Ginyu(max Pl 120,000) . You can't even compare Zarbon and Sauza; They are in totally different league. Zarbon was a little less than 24000 in his untransformed state and just over 30000 in his transformed state. In the second fight, Vegeta only had a slight advantage over transformed Zarbon(thats why he cheated to win). But the same Vegeta was beaten by recoome who is definitely less than ginyu.





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Dec 9 2007, 08:02 PM
These two look to be the right hand men of both Frieza and Cooler so which do you think would win in a fight? Bearing in mind Zarbon has his transformation and such.

I'm surprised anyone would even try debating this. Salza would easily win this fight.
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Tien makes a great point about salza and zarbon...... Tien also expanded on what I tried to say to......
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Salza would ***** him up. i read in a shonen jump issue that he beat Captain Ginyu for a spot on the squad
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