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SSJ Gogeta V Super Vegito
Topic Started: Dec 2 2007, 12:26 AM (39,528 Views)
Zenet
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Only Potara gets rival Boost I think.

Fusion dance - x20
Potara - x100
Potara - w / rival boost - x200

SSJ boost by Buu arc is only x2.


Edited by Zenet, Feb 8 2013, 05:50 PM.
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zenet
Feb 8 2013, 05:32 PM
Only Potara gets rival Boost I think.

Fusion dance - x20
Potara - x100
Potara - w / rival boost - x200

SSJ boost by Buu arc is only x2.


So even a SSJ3 Gogeta has trouble facing Base Vegito
Man !!

SSj = 2x Base

This is laughable and very much illogical
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Feb 8 2013, 05:36 PM
zenet
Feb 8 2013, 05:32 PM
Only Potara gets rival Boost I think.

Fusion dance - x20
Potara - x100
Potara - w / rival boost - x200

SSJ boost by Buu arc is only x2.


So even a SSJ3 Gogeta has trouble facing Base Vegito
Man !!

SSj = 2x Base

This is laughable and very much illogical
Its logical becuase it being higher is not neaded.

Base Goku > Piccolo (Buu Arc)

Which is impossible, as a small gap is implied between SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Kid Gohan. therefore a smaller SSJ boost was intrdocued.
Edited by Zenet, Feb 8 2013, 06:13 PM.
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Piccolo Buu arc > Base Saiyans.

Piccolo can handle a Cell Jr. Can a Base Saiyan do that? I doubt that , son.
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Feb 8 2013, 05:43 PM
Piccolo Buu arc > Base Saiyans.

Piccolo can handle a Cell Jr. Can a Base Saiyan do that? I doubt that , son.
Base Goku was weaker in Cell Games.

7 years of training is a big increase.


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zenet
Feb 8 2013, 05:47 PM
Alex KloonBoss
Feb 8 2013, 05:43 PM
Piccolo Buu arc > Base Saiyans.

Piccolo can handle a Cell Jr. Can a Base Saiyan do that? I doubt that , son.
Base Goku was weaker in Cell Games.

7 years of training is a big increase.




Base Goku was inferior to Piccolo. Too weak bro. 7 years of training it can be close.
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Feb 8 2013, 05:50 PM
zenet
Feb 8 2013, 05:47 PM
Alex KloonBoss
Feb 8 2013, 05:43 PM
Piccolo Buu arc > Base Saiyans.

Piccolo can handle a Cell Jr. Can a Base Saiyan do that? I doubt that , son.
Base Goku was weaker in Cell Games.

7 years of training is a big increase.




Base Goku was inferior to Piccolo. Too weak bro. 7 years of training it can be close.
Evidence shows Goku > Piccolo

Piccolo was around 50% SSJ Goku in Cell Games.

By Buu saga Base Goku was as strong as that.
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That is impossible, as a small gap is implied between SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
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Feb 8 2013, 05:54 PM
That is impossible, as a small gap is implied between SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
Because the SSJ boost decreased.
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Besides the well known power-chain (Vegetto > Boohan etc. etc.), it's clear Gogeta has no chance in hell here, no one.

First I start by saying that I like both this characters a lot, and I do not get anything in my pockets by saying Vegetto is better than Gogeta or vice versa; being said that, Gogeta has no chance because Vegetto is haxed, he is the DB incarnation of the word hax.

-) We are told that Potara > dance, then we are told that Potara at Vegetto > Potara > dance.
-) Then we have Vegetto himself agreeing with Boohan about the fact he shouldn't have been so strong (and that's a quote referred to the metamoran dance).
-) Vegetto fights the most powerful being ever with just his feet, and he is so overpowered that we don't even see any new technique (with the excpetion of the Ki no Tsurugi).
-) We all know Boohan >>>>..>> Kid Boo, well, Vegetto can kill him with a little movement of a hand; the Spirit Bomb itself would have probably failed to kill Boohan.
-) We see him tranformed into a candy, but still, he has the same power as before, he can even talk: this does mean he is even immune to magic and reality warping.
-) Then an official guidebook supervised by AT himself states that his battle power is equivalent to Goku's battle power multiplied by Vegeta's.
-) Then, again, another guidebook, a GT guidebook it seems, depicts him (in the Boo saga) as probably stronger than a Ssj4; and this, I repeat myself, seems to come from a GT guide itself.

I'm just reporting the information we have about him, nothing more.
All that stuff, in my book, has a word: HAX and beyond.
Gogeta, even if he is still a fusion and thus an absolute top tier DB character, doesn't even come close to this: he doesn't have an impact of such a magnitude.

For what we know so far about both of them, this is a spite thread.

The only one who seems to be haxed to that level, or maybe even more, is Birusu (aka Bills).
Edited by Sjk8, Feb 8 2013, 11:11 PM.
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Alex KloonBoss
Feb 8 2013, 05:43 PM
Piccolo Buu arc > Base Saiyans.

Piccolo can handle a Cell Jr. Can a Base Saiyan do that? I doubt that , son.
The anime shows Piccolo handling a Cell Jr, not the manga.
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Base Saiyans > Pui-Pui > Kaioshin > Piccolo.
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Feb 8 2013, 11:35 PM
Alex KloonBoss
Feb 8 2013, 05:43 PM
Piccolo Buu arc > Base Saiyans.

Piccolo can handle a Cell Jr. Can a Base Saiyan do that? I doubt that , son.
The anime shows Piccolo handling a Cell Jr, not the manga.

Manga wise , Piccolo seems to hold a little bit. Not as Vegeta and Trunks of course.
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Feb 8 2013, 11:52 PM
Hurry My Curry
Feb 8 2013, 11:35 PM
Alex KloonBoss
Feb 8 2013, 05:43 PM
Piccolo Buu arc > Base Saiyans.

Piccolo can handle a Cell Jr. Can a Base Saiyan do that? I doubt that , son.
The anime shows Piccolo handling a Cell Jr, not the manga.

Manga wise , Piccolo seems to hold a little bit. Not as Vegeta and Trunks of course.
Only Vegeta and Trunks fight on par. Cell doesn't care if the Cell Jr's kill the humans and Piccolo. Piccolo is still alive.

Conclusion: Cell Jr's are toying, and feats are unreliable. Plus it's one freaking panel where Piccolo's standing up. That's not a big deal.
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zenet
Feb 8 2013, 05:56 PM
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Feb 8 2013, 05:54 PM
That is impossible, as a small gap is implied between SSJ2 Goku and SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
Because the SSJ boost decreased.
No .. it just got reduced to the lowest multiplier of 10x

Proof :


1 ) AT Stated that by the Buu Saga , the Multiplier came down to 10x and never again fell

2 ) Read this topic : SSj Multipliers

I have explained with examples why SSj Multipliers in Buu Sga will be 10x and not as high as 50x and as low as 2x

Your claim has been refuted
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