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SSJ Gogeta V Super Vegito
Topic Started: Dec 2 2007, 12:26 AM (39,556 Views)
Ryu-ken
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Let me throw in a little something...

Gogeta, as we all know can't transform to any other form, the reason for this is that in order to perform 'chachacha' fusion [dance:)], the power levels have to be exactly the same, and once fused they stay as, unlike Potara which can be done no matter the difference of power, and once fused the ki can be raised. Vegito can lower and raise his power at will, while Gogeta goes all out right from the beggining and uses up all of his power real quick. I'm pretty sure that Vegito could have easily powered up to SSJ2, and if he want it to and with enough effort, I'm sure Vegito could have taken Goku's SSJ3 power even higher using Vegita's fused ki.

Still we never get to see Vegito's ultimate power since he was holding back at Buu.

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I think Vegito would definatly have the upper hand, but the fight would probably drag on because Vegito is so cocky and arrogant.
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Vegito I think, you just can't imagine Vegito losing to almost anything.. hehe.
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I see a few flaws in your equation, NeciFiX.

What suggests that Super Janemba is "on par" with Goku as a SSJ3? Their battle was brief, and Goku couldn't damage SJ at all, while SJ seemed to be playing with Goku the entire time. He beat the SSJ3 out of him pretty quickly, IIRC.

I would put that in your "Super Vegeta vs #18" category, in that sure Goku could have hit him a few times, but ultimately SJ would have finished Goku with ease, as it appeared he was going to before Vegita showed up. (Again, SJ was toying with Goku for quite some time and would have finished the fight if he had another split second.)


Also, there really is no way to gauge the gap in power between SJ and Gogeta.

As soon as they fused, Gogeta rushed towards SJ, clearly with the intent of finishing him as fast as possible. In case you wonder how I'm so sure of this, it's just an observation. SSJ3 Goku said "It's over Janemba" then Dragon Fisted his *****. Gogeta said the same thing and proceeded to finish SJ.

So while Gogeta is certainly alot more powerful than Janemba, there's no way of telling how much exactly, which means you can't accurately compare him to Ultimate Gohan.

I believe that Super Janemba would finish Ultimate Gohan with relative ease, but that's now beside the point.

Now before I say why I think Vegito is the superior warrior, I will point out the final flaw in your post. You use the canon manga as a crucial piece of your equation, but the non-canon Fusion Reborn movie as another.

For this I will be going strictly based off the anime in which it WAS stated that the Potara fusion was stronger (I'll have to make sure of that), and where normal Vegito kicked Ultimate Buus ***** and only went SSJ to show off.

Vegito made an absolute fool of the most powerful enemy ever presented in DBZ. Aside from the hits he let Buu get for *****s and giggles, it was the most one-sided beatdown ever.

Greatest display of confident dominance I've seen in the series. If the gap between Gogeta and Janemba was as big as the gap between Vegito and Buu, then why didnt he play with him a little?

That's just speculation, but I think it's the general consensus that Vegito>Gogeta.

The only evidence supporting this though, isn't really substantial. Kai said Potaras are stonger...in the anime. Some would say the anime isn't canon BUT...apparently Akira Toriyama considers it to be, and he apparently said that Vegito is the strongest character of all.

I have heard this from many people but I've never seen an official source.
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Super Vegito> Super Buu Gohan < Janemba < SSJ Gogeta

Portal Fusion may last longer but SSJ Gogeta has higher strength and speed

Janemba is way stronger Buu and Gogeta defeated Janemba with ease but Gogeta would win this one. Kai may even said that Portal is stronger than Dance fusion but it doesn't mean it is right; just like SSJ4 Gogeta can beat Super Vegito
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Oct 15 2008, 09:23 AM
Super Vegito> Super Buu Gohan < Janemba < SSJ Gogeta

Portal Fusion may last longer but SSJ Gogeta has higher strength and speed

Janemba is way stronger Buu and Gogeta defeated Janemba with ease but Gogeta would win this one. Kai may even said that Portal is stronger than Dance fusion but it doesn't mean it is right; just like SSJ4 Gogeta can beat Super Vegito
No Janemba is clearly weaker than Super Buu (BASE) as shown that goku can hold his own for a bit where as he was afraid to fight Super Buu (BASE) even with Vegeta. Vegito and Gogeta should b equal because the ear ring r only superior for the fact that it last for ever and the fusion only last 30 mins.

Super Vegito = SSJ Gogeta > Mystic Buu > Super Buu (BASE) > Janemba > SSJ3 Goku
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I'm pretty sure that Vegito would wins 9/10 fights against Gogeta.
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No, Gogeta would take it. Gogeta has more of Goku traits and fighting style, there for a smarter and less cocky one. The strength of Vegeto and Gogeta are similar, yes. But Vegeto is to cocky for his own good.
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Imagine what would happen if Goku and Vegeta potara-fused while ssj4...I think the whole universe would be shattered.
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Wouldn't it just be SS4 Vegeto?
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Yes but, assuming Vegito is more powerful then Gogeta (which is true IMO), if SSJ4 Gogeta was so rediculously powerful, imagine how powerful SSJ4 Vegito would be.
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Well, I highly doubt , there would be a villian strong enough, for two Super Saiyan 4s having to use the fusion earrings. But, ya hed be one buff mutha fo sho.

Mostly likely would crumble the planet, with a power up.
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Oct 21 2008, 09:26 AM
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Oct 15 2008, 09:23 AM
Super Vegito> Super Buu Gohan < Janemba < SSJ Gogeta

Portal Fusion may last longer but SSJ Gogeta has higher strength and speed

Janemba is way stronger Buu and Gogeta defeated Janemba with ease but Gogeta would win this one. Kai may even said that Portal is stronger than Dance fusion but it doesn't mean it is right; just like SSJ4 Gogeta can beat Super Vegito
No Janemba is clearly weaker than Super Buu (BASE) as shown that goku can hold his own for a bit where as he was afraid to fight Super Buu (BASE) even with Vegeta. Vegito and Gogeta should b equal because the ear ring r only superior for the fact that it last for ever and the fusion only last 30 mins.

Super Vegito = SSJ Gogeta > Mystic Buu > Super Buu (BASE) > Janemba > SSJ3 Goku
You're saying that Kid Buu is weaker than Evil Buu? SSJ3 Goku power was equal to Kid Buu's power but Buu never gets tired =/
And Janemba is way stronger than SSJ3 Goku
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Janemba was a tank, SSJ 3 Goku even had trouble against him, with USSJ Vegetas help.

Technically, Janemba is closer to Gogetas power level than anything.

Vegeto wouldnt stand a chance :/
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Oct 22 2008, 03:49 PM
No, Gogeta would take it. Gogeta has more of Goku traits and fighting style, there for a smarter and less cocky one. The strength of Vegeto and Gogeta are similar, yes. But Vegeto is to cocky for his own good.
What the hell are you talking about?

Gogeta only exists for like a minute, and all he says is his introduction line and then "its over Janemba"

There is not enough time to analyze his character or his fighting style.

Also, in GT, Gogeta was very cocky and didn't fight too smart. It cost him the battle against Omega.
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