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Feb 7 2013, 06:00 PM Post #421 |
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First Gogeta Mention In Manga: Goku suggests it while on Kami's Lookout. Says it would defeat Fat Boo easily. Second Gogeta Mention In Manga: Goku suggests it again once they've taken the people out of Super Boo's body by ripping them out. Says they're no match for Boo, however, if they fuse, they can win. IMO: First Mention = SSJ Gogeta, Second Mention = SSJ3 Gogeta. Of course, that's an assumption, but given the huge gap implied between Fatty and Super, that's always how I've taken it. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Feb 7 2013, 06:02 PM Post #422 |
 
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You think it would take SSJ3 Gogeta to beat Super Buu is basically what you're saying right? Sorry im tired right now and cant function well.\ Either way i agree with ya. |
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Feb 7 2013, 06:05 PM Post #423 |
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Yep, spot on. |
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| Sjk8 | Feb 7 2013, 09:54 PM Post #424 |
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I completely agree with you, but I would add that, seen Gotenks post, base Gogeta would have been plenty for Fat Boy. But I can't still stand the fact the metamoran boost can increase (see Gotenks pre and post): someone (Goku) should have told us. Edited by Sjk8, Feb 7 2013, 09:56 PM.
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| + Ryebrid | Feb 8 2013, 03:25 AM Post #425 |
 
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I agree with what you've said, though im interested to see an elaborated power chain of yours that includes Janemba. |
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Feb 8 2013, 06:55 AM Post #426 |
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Well , as i said earlier , the "RIval Boost" is NOT just an "icing of the cake" of Vegito's Power .. it is quite significant . But 1st , lets start from something else I agree with what KP said .... and most people tend to forget this .... But Old Kai never denied the fact that Goku and Gohan's Fusion will be able to defeat Buutenks.... he just said that Buutenks wont give them time to fuse and so he gave goku the Potara's Scan 1 Scan 2 Gohan had to suppress his power to Goku's level ... and Goku = Post Majin Vegeta ... So , Gokhan [Fusion] = Gogeta > Buutenks Now .... If Goku and Gohan fused with Potara ,Gokhan [Potara] would be good enough to make a joke of Buuhan too ... since Gohan wouldn have to Suppress Goku was confident that if and Vegeta fused with Potara , he would defeat buuhan [even without Rival Boost] So , Gokhan [Potara] > Vegito [Without Rival Boost] > Buuhan ~> Gokhan [Fusion] ~ Gogeta > Buutenks Now comes that "Rival Boost" Goku said that he didnt know that Vegito could make such a fool out of Buuhan .... he thought that Potara gave Vegito THAT much power Whereas ... that much power Difference between Vegito and Buuhan was due to "Rival Boost". Goku didnt KNOW about Rival Boost ... it was said by Old Kai after Vegito was Formed Scan 3 Note the Word : "Even Stronger" Old kai was no fool .. he used the Potara himself and Each Potara fusion gives some boost of power [not the rival boost] which Old kai knows He Knew the power of Goku and might have sensed that Vegeta was as strong as Goku He could have estimated the power of Vegito [without Rival Boost] beforehand . Thus , he said 'They are Even Stronger as they are Rivals and the fusion is more complete' ... becoz the "Rival Boost" gave Vegito more power [i would say even 2x would be enough] then Old kai estimated Hence : Vegito [Rival Boost] > Vegito[Without Rival Boost] > Buuhan ~> Gokhan [Fusion] ~ Gogeta > Buutenks One question that remains to be answered is that : Is Gokhan [Potara] > or ~ or < Vegito [Rival Boost] ? |
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Feb 8 2013, 07:31 AM Post #427 |
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Those first two scans were awful, maybe you should look for better translated ones? Anyway, I'm getting sick of this thread, so I'll just post my power chain and end all this madness for me  Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Feb 8 2013, 11:29 AM Post #428 |
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^ same here, although people may not like it. Base Gokhan(Potarra)<<FP SSJ Vegito (hypothetical)<<SSJ Vegito (@Buu)<Base Vegito<=SSJ3 Gogeta<Buutenks<SSJ3 Gotenks<Super Buu The reason why i have Base Gokhan so high is because that i believe that the rival boost isn't a huge ridiculous number. Also the gap i have between Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Goku is massive! im literally nerfing him down here. |
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Feb 8 2013, 11:41 AM Post #429 |
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There is no Proof that the Rival Boost is little According to old kai's statement ..... it is a pretty good boost |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Feb 8 2013, 11:46 AM Post #430 |
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There's no proof that the rival boost is high According to old kai's statement.......it is an unknown boost. Edit: all we know is, is that it is there. Edited by Goddess Ultimecia, Feb 8 2013, 11:48 AM.
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| + Pointer | Feb 8 2013, 12:03 PM Post #431 |
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Thats why I think although Rival Boost exists and strenghtens the fusion,The real power comes from the efficiency of the potara fusion Edited by Pointer, Feb 8 2013, 12:04 PM.
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Feb 8 2013, 12:07 PM Post #432 |
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Same here. I cant believe that people think the Vegito fusion is made BY the rivalry boost. When i think of a boost i dont think of some massive 100x boost. I think of like your favorite ice cream with all sorts of toppings on it, and the cherry(rivalry boost) on top. The Potarra fusion is the entire ice cream and toppings. The rivalry boost is nothing more than a nice addition. |
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Feb 8 2013, 12:17 PM Post #433 |
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See all of my previous posts .... Did i ever say it a 100x Boost ? Did i say that the Rival Boost is the Main power of Vegito ? NO. I said that The Rival Boost was a 2x to a max 3x boost [i prefer the 2x becoz its enough] See my Power Chains again : Vegito [Rival Boost] > Vegito[Without Rival Boost] > Buuhan Vegito was ALREADY stronger than Buuhan Without Rival Boost .... But that Rival Boost was the reason which made Buuhan look like an idiot to Vegito If Buuhan is at 10 Vegito[Without Rival Boost] will be 11 - 12 and Vegito [Rival Boost] will be 22 -24 over a 2.2x-2.4x power advantage over Buuhan .... which is clearly logical given the beating Buuhan took |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Feb 8 2013, 12:22 PM Post #434 |
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Did I say specifically "i cant believe DSB thinks the rivalry boost is 100x"? NO. If you believe it's only 2-3x then fine, never said you were the one with the large boosts. So chill out buddy  Let's sit down and have a nice cup of coffee eh? |
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Feb 8 2013, 12:42 PM Post #435 |
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Was just trying to clear my point  |
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