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SSJ Gogeta V Super Vegito
Topic Started: Dec 2 2007, 12:26 AM (39,531 Views)
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Unless of course the Metamorans are magical beings, which i doubt.

The way i view it is Fusion dance is a technique
Potarra earrings is a fusion item that is reinforced with Kai magic.
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When Vegetto says that he's surprised he can make this big a fool outta Boo, wouldn't that imply that Gogeta could do it too? Just not to the same extent?
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Feb 6 2013, 02:16 AM
When Vegetto says that he's surprised he can make this big a fool outta Boo, wouldn't that imply that Gogeta could do it too? Just not to the same extent?
You could make the argument for Goku's expectations of Vegetto, but not Gogeta. http://w11.zetaboards.com/Shinden_Reborn/single/?p=8112802&t=8401526
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Good point. Depending on interpretation, the implication is there, however I don't think it leads us down "X" or "Y" path, in relation to what form Gogeta would be making a fool out of Boohan with.
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I personally use the Rival Boost= One level theory.

Vegito saying he surprized that his MSSJ can make a fool out of Buuhan makes me think that Vegito is only using MSSJ to fell out Buuhan almost like a warm up for the fight. I have Gogeta at about this level.

Goten and Trunks's only feat for being close to the adults is that Goten spared with Gohan evenly every other feat they did could have been done at an USSJ Trunks level.

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SSJ2 Gogeta>MSSJ Vegito>>>>Buuhan>Buutenks>SSJ Gogeta>/= Ultimate Gohan>/= Vegito>SSJ3 Gotenks>Super Buu.
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being the better of the two fusing methods has nothing to do with it being instant because gokuu already realized it would be instant when elder kai told him "all you have to do is put on those earrings and you'll be fused just like that."

the better part was made known separately, but like i said it has to do with appearance.
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taimanin
Feb 6 2013, 03:36 PM
being the better of the two fusing methods has nothing to do with it being instant because gokuu already realized it would be instant when elder kai told him "all you have to do is put on those earrings and you'll be fused just like that."

the better part was made known separately, but like i said it has to do with appearance.
I had no idea they were so concerned about appearance when power was all that mattered. Shame.
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taimanin
Feb 6 2013, 03:36 PM
being the better of the two fusing methods has nothing to do with it being instant because gokuu already realized it would be instant when elder kai told him "all you have to do is put on those earrings and you'll be fused just like that."

the better part was made known separately, but like i said it has to do with appearance.


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Jan 26 2013, 02:37 PM
it's only the truth. you see elder kai always complained about joining bodies with a hideous witch and how he used to look handsome. he's very concerned with appearance.
That's where yer point fails, child. He said Potara has a greater effect, which you take to mean appearance. But he joined with that witch using Potara. ^_^


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I didn't actually read through 28 pages, but are you guys really arguing about this?

SSJ Vegito >>>>> SSJ Gogeta. Obviously. If you don't believe it, you need to go rematch the series and movies.
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Feb 6 2013, 07:55 PM
I didn't actually read through 28 pages, but are you guys really arguing about this?

SSJ Vegito >>>>> SSJ Gogeta. Obviously. If you don't believe it, you need to go rematch the series and movies.
I don't believe there's a gap so huge between them. Though it's heavily implied Potara produces a stronger warrior.

What we know; The Fusion Dance produces a warrior of incredible power, the potara does the same to a greater extent with their rivalry boosting it further.

Almost everything in between is conjecture, their alternate timelines.
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Manga Gogeta has implications of his strength from at least two characters.
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I didn't know there was a manga Gogeta. This is new to me.

Do share.

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Feb 7 2013, 08:58 AM
I didn't know there was a manga Gogeta. This is new to me.

Do share.

Gogeta never appeared in the manga, we were only given implications of how strong he would've been which doesnt seem all that impressive compared to Vegetto's outcome.
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What Implications? The Goku and Vegeta fusion (via potara) was a last minute happening. Goku didn't even know Vegeta would be available to fuse with.
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Feb 7 2013, 01:01 PM
What Implications? The Goku and Vegeta fusion (via potara) was a last minute happening. Goku didn't even know Vegeta would be available to fuse with.
Metamoran Gokhan would be equal to Metamoran Gogeta because post-Majin Vegeta = Goku and Ultimate Gohan would have to suppress down to Goku's level.

Gotenks-Boo knew the power of Fusion, the power of Goku, and the power of Vegeta, and didn't think a Fusion of them would be able to beat him, but he tried to stop it just in case. He was actually contradicted beforehand when Goku told Elder Kaioshin that a Fusion of himself and Gohan would "definitely" be enough to beat Boo, which the elder didn't deny.

Gohan-Boo knew the power of Fusion, the power of Goku, and the power of Vegeta, and didn't think a Fusion of them would be able to beat him. This was not contradicted. It's actually even confirmed when Vegetto agreed with Boo that "this" - how badly Boo was getting beat up - wasn't supposed to be happening.

Goku told Vegeta that Potara fusion was the "only" way to beat Gohan-Boo.

Inside Super Boo, Fusion was only brought up once the boys and Piccolo had been removed from Boo.

So:

Vegetto > Gohan-Boo > Gogeta > Gotenks-Boo
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