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SSJ Gogeta V Super Vegito
Topic Started: Dec 2 2007, 12:26 AM (39,534 Views)
+ Pointer Feb 5 2013, 08:26 AM Post #361
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DSB
Feb 5 2013, 07:15 AM
All i want to say that is :

Somehow those Stupid Potara's "KNEW" that Vegeta and Goku were rivals and gave them a "Boost"

This is the 2nd most ridiculous thing i have seen in DBZ

U take out that Rival Boost from that Vegito .... he then becomes 1.0000000000001334444x stronger than gogeta [At the most]
Then that rival boost gotta be very high .....base Vegito~<ssj3 Gogeta ....:/

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DSB Feb 5 2013, 08:29 AM Post #362
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Feb 5 2013, 08:26 AM
DSB
Feb 5 2013, 08:23 AM
TerrorOfPerfection
Feb 5 2013, 08:10 AM
DSB
Feb 5 2013, 08:02 AM
TerrorOfPerfection
Feb 5 2013, 07:46 AM
DSB
Feb 5 2013, 07:15 AM
All i want to say that is :

Somehow those Stupid Potara's "KNEW" that Vegeta and Goku were rivals and gave them a "Boost"

This is the 2nd most ridiculous thing i have seen in DBZ

U take out that Rival Boost from that Vegito .... he then becomes 1.0000000000001334444x stronger than gogeta [At the most]
Rival boosts are debatable.

Potara is a more magical fusion, with no time limits/restrictions. Elder Kai said it was the perfect fusion.

Going by your logic, the perfect fusion is imperfect to the imperfect fusion.

Vegito is stronger.

Stop being a Gogeta fanboy.
Its a Better fusion becoz it has no time limits

but if Goku and Hecule fused to become Gokule ...

he would definitely become weaker ... as thought by goku

in Fusion Dance ... if u perform it correctly ..... there would be no "Gokule" which makes u weak becoz 2 people with that much difference of powers cant and shouldnt fuse .. its lame

And Yes ... if Potara was perfect .... then even "Gokule" would be stronger than Goku

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Stop being a Gogeta fanboy


Im a Gogeta fanboy .... but u are also one ... Vegito Fanboy.



The Entire Vegito thing was Meaningless .....

Goku and Vegeta fuse "Permanently" .... get a "Rival Boost" since somehow those Potara's "KNEW" that they were Rivals ..... and they Diffused inside Buu ....
If they had to be Permanently Fused .. they shouldnt defuse even inside Buu ...
If they had to Diffuse .... why use something that makes 2 people fuse "Permanently" ...

Like i said before .... AT wanted something Cooler than the Obvious Gogeta ......... but gave us something that is Meaningless [and overrated] from head to Toe
Lol :w00t:

You are a Gogeta fanboy because all of these facts thrown at you, you deny, and keep saying Gogeta is stronger.

I am not a Vegito fanboy just because it's a FACT he is stronger.

Omega Shenron >>>> SSj4 Goku.

Am I an Omega Shenron fanboy now?

Read Necifix's posts, he explains it to newbies pretty well.
U know ... u are trolling for no reason
and ur posts are starting to make little sense

I NEVER SAID that Gogeta > Vegito

Its obvious that Vegito > Gogeta in terms of power

All im telling is that U take that Rival Boost of Vegito ... he falls down big time
and potara is not the "Perfect Fusion"

He will still be Stronger than Gogeta ...but not by much

Please explain to me how I am trolling?

Potara IS the perfect fusion!!!

Case closed.
Potara is not the Perfect Fusion

as much evidence im bringing to show that Potara is not the perfect fusion .... u are saying only one thing : "Potara's the Perfect"


U can stop posting here if u dont feel like ... but this will continue



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DSB
Feb 5 2013, 07:15 AM
All i want to say that is :

Somehow those Stupid Potara's "KNEW" that Vegeta and Goku were rivals and gave them a "Boost"

This is the 2nd most ridiculous thing i have seen in DBZ

U take out that Rival Boost from that Vegito .... he then becomes 1.0000000000001334444x stronger than gogeta [At the most]
Then that rival boost gotta be very high .....base Vegito~<ssj3 Gogeta ....:/


Yes it is ... thats why its illogical
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GrooseStrikesBack Feb 5 2013, 08:32 AM Post #363
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Good. I keep saying it because it's true.

Potara:
- No time limit.
- Kai style fusion.
- Perfect fusion (as stated by Elder Kai)

Fusion Dance:
- 30 minute time limit.
- Not a Kai style fusion.
- Imperfect fusion.
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+ Pointer Feb 5 2013, 08:40 AM Post #364
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 And the "difference(10*2*4)" may come from the imperfection of Fusion dance ,rather than the "rival" boost ;) Just as it was said above Its kinda illogical

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Ryder Feb 5 2013, 08:45 AM Post #365
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The only way Gogeta is approaching Vegito is by hax.
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+ Pointer Feb 5 2013, 08:54 AM Post #366
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 Or maybe Gt Gogeta( max ssj3) vs vegito (dbz max ssj3) That would be nearly equal

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DSB Feb 5 2013, 08:58 AM Post #367
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Feb 5 2013, 08:32 AM
Good. I keep saying it because it's true.

Potara:
- No time limit.
- Kai style fusion.
- Perfect fusion (as stated by Elder Kai)

Fusion Dance:
- 30 minute time limit.
- Not a Kai style fusion.
- Imperfect fusion.
TerrorOfPerfection
 

Potara:
- No time limit.
- Kai style fusion.
- Perfect fusion (as stated by Elder Kai)


- No time limit is the only aspect logical in Potara

- Kai style fusion doesnt mean its far better

- In which way its perfect ? For what ? No time limit ? That Silly "Rival Boost" ? He didnt say its perfect ... its "better" [though not stated in which way ] than Fusion Dance

TerrorOfPerfection
 

Fusion Dance:
- 30 minute time limit.
- Not a Kai style fusion.
- Imperfect fusion


- One of the only 2 drawback of the Dance
- So what ? The Kai's are not absolute best .... if they were .. they should be stronger than the z warriors .... that one thing proves that Some Mortals or Mortal Techniques are or can be better than the one used by Kai's
- How ? Time Limit ? Failed Fusion ?

The Old kai says Potara is "Better" than fusion doesnt make it Perfect
But how its "Better" ?
Prove this before saying potara is Perfect
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GrooseStrikesBack Feb 5 2013, 09:01 AM Post #368
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DSB
Feb 5 2013, 08:58 AM
TerrorOfPerfection
Feb 5 2013, 08:32 AM
Good. I keep saying it because it's true.

Potara:
- No time limit.
- Kai style fusion.
- Perfect fusion (as stated by Elder Kai)

Fusion Dance:
- 30 minute time limit.
- Not a Kai style fusion.
- Imperfect fusion.
TerrorOfPerfection
 

Potara:
- No time limit.
- Kai style fusion.
- Perfect fusion (as stated by Elder Kai)


- No time limit is the only aspect logical in Potara

- Kai style fusion doesnt mean its far better

- In which way its perfect ? For what ? No time limit ? That Silly "Rival Boost" ? He didnt say its perfect ... its "better" [though not stated in which way ] than Fusion Dance

TerrorOfPerfection
 

Fusion Dance:
- 30 minute time limit.
- Not a Kai style fusion.
- Imperfect fusion


- One of the only 2 drawback of the Dance
- So what ? The Kai's are not absolute best ....
- How ? Time Limit ? Failed Fusion ?

The Old kai says Potara is "Better" than fusion doesnt make it Perfect
But how its "Better" ?
Prove this before saying potara is Perfect
I haved proved it. No time limit, no failed fusions, magical, Elder Kai's statements, you are just stuck in a loop. You are wrong, Gogeta fanboy, welcome to my ignore list.
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DSB Feb 5 2013, 09:04 AM Post #369
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TerrorOfPerfection
Feb 5 2013, 09:01 AM
DSB
Feb 5 2013, 08:58 AM
TerrorOfPerfection
Feb 5 2013, 08:32 AM
Good. I keep saying it because it's true.

Potara:
- No time limit.
- Kai style fusion.
- Perfect fusion (as stated by Elder Kai)

Fusion Dance:
- 30 minute time limit.
- Not a Kai style fusion.
- Imperfect fusion.
TerrorOfPerfection
 

Potara:
- No time limit.
- Kai style fusion.
- Perfect fusion (as stated by Elder Kai)


- No time limit is the only aspect logical in Potara

- Kai style fusion doesnt mean its far better

- In which way its perfect ? For what ? No time limit ? That Silly "Rival Boost" ? He didnt say its perfect ... its "better" [though not stated in which way ] than Fusion Dance

TerrorOfPerfection
 

Fusion Dance:
- 30 minute time limit.
- Not a Kai style fusion.
- Imperfect fusion


- One of the only 2 drawback of the Dance
- So what ? The Kai's are not absolute best ....
- How ? Time Limit ? Failed Fusion ?

The Old kai says Potara is "Better" than fusion doesnt make it Perfect
But how its "Better" ?
Prove this before saying potara is Perfect
I haved proved it. No time limit, no failed fusions, magical, Elder Kai's statements, you are just stuck in a loop. You are wrong, Gogeta fanboy, welcome to my ignore list.
U didnt prove anything .........
U are just saying "Potara is Better"

And

Your "ignore list" Doesnt mean anything , Lol :D

I wont argue with u anymore ... becoz its useless
if it was KP , Naked Snake , Copy ninja , Kiosko or anyone else ... they would have given me what i wanted , Proof , by now .... and i would have agreed to them
U are saying 1 thing ... "Potara is Better"
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Ryder Feb 5 2013, 09:09 AM Post #370
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Feb 5 2013, 08:54 AM
Or maybe Gt Gogeta( max ssj3) vs vegito (dbz max ssj3) That would be nearly equal
Vegito would get one shot by Base gogeta in his GT
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* Yu Narukami Feb 5 2013, 09:11 AM Post #371
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 Well, this is a thorny issue. At most, Goku expected Gogeta to rival Bootenks. Even if you interpret this as loosely as possible, it would mean that SSJ Gogeta ~ Bootenks. Yet, we see SSJ Vegetto beating on Boohan with no effort at all

So, we'd get;

SSJ Vegetto > Boohan > Bootenks ~ SSJ Gogeta > Base Vegetto > Base Gogeta

My personal chain is;

SSJ Vegetto > Boohan > Bootenks > Base Vegetto ~ SSJ3 Gogeta
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Goddess Ultimecia Feb 5 2013, 09:12 AM Post #372
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 Well i dont think when Goku was going to fuse with Hercule he would have gotten weaker, it's just that Hercule's lack of

knowledge of ki would be a major drawback, plus Hercs didnt know how to fly. I never heard Goku state that fusing with

Hercule would make him weaker, it's just that fusing with hercule would be too much of a risk skill wise.
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DSB Feb 5 2013, 09:14 AM Post #373
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Feb 5 2013, 09:11 AM
Well, this is a thorny issue. At most, Goku expected Gogeta to rival Bootenks. Even if you interpret this as loosely as possible, it would mean that SSJ Gogeta ~ Bootenks. Yet, we see SSJ Vegetto beating on Boohan with no effort at all

So, we'd get;

SSJ Vegetto > Boohan > Bootenks ~ SSJ Gogeta > Base Vegetto > Base Gogeta

My personal chain is;

SSJ Vegetto > Boohan > Bootenks > Base Vegetto ~ SSJ3 Gogeta
Thats becoz of that "Rival Boost"

If it werent there :

Boohan > SSJ Vegetto > Bootenks ~ SSJ Gogeta > Base Vegetto > Base Gogeta


Look ... Old Kai said Buutenks wont give them time to use Fusion Dance .... He never said Fusion dance wont be able to stop Buutenks

So , that proves : SSj Vegito [without Rival Boost] = 1.000000000012355667 x SSj Gogeta


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Well i dont think when Goku was going to fuse with Hercule he would have gotten weaker, it's just that Hercule's lack of

knowledge of ki would be a major drawback, plus Hercs didnt know how to fly. I never heard Goku state that fusing with

Hercule would make him weaker, it's just that fusing with hercule would be too much of a risk skill wise.


See this :


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+ Pointer Feb 5 2013, 09:16 AM Post #374
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 This debate is gonna turn into which fusion is better xD btw Gogeta <<<Vegito and its due to the fusion itself, Elder Kai said that potara fusion is better, cuz it may works different than the fusion dance ,like I said before 80 times difference can not come only from the rival boost.
So Elder kai statement that potara is better,may refer that its more perfect. Or maybe both of the fusions works the same , but the potara's efficiency is better. If fusion dance worked the same as potara I mean with 30 min restriction,but everything is the same as Potara then Gogeta=Vegito
All in all my personal opinion is that base vegito~<SSj 3 Gogeta comes from the imperfection of the fusion dance, its just a theory though

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Goddess Ultimecia Feb 5 2013, 09:20 AM Post #375
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 Usually when i look at fusions you can look at it like this.

Fusion dance- a fusion technique made by the metamorans that allows two people of similar size and power to fuse into

one vastly stronger being for a limited time.

Potarra earrings- The secret weapon of the kai's. a magical set of earrings that allows a fusion of ANY two beings regardless of height, or power.

Basically the way i see it to keep it simple is

Fusion dance- a technique that allows a fusion

Potarra's- a set of earrings that allow two people to fuse, they have kai magic in them.
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