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SSJ Gogeta V Super Vegito
Topic Started: Dec 2 2007, 12:26 AM (39,549 Views)
lunar2 Oct 30 2010, 10:48 PM Post #136
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 vegito wins easily. potara is about 16 times as powerful as fusion imo.
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Warrior-Elite Nov 7 2010, 02:38 PM Post #137
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 But can vegito turn super saiyan 4?
I dont think so!
Gogeta ftw!
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deploy Nov 7 2010, 02:50 PM Post #138
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 Gogeta can't turn ssj4 either :p
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+ Ryebrid Nov 8 2010, 05:47 AM Post #139
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 SSJ4 Gogeta was the result of SSJ4 Goku fusing with SSJ4 Vegeta.

SSJ4 is completely different to the other SSJ forms
1. it not being canon

By the means of the transformation it is unsure if a fusion could transform as easily as Goku seems to in GT.

If Gogeta could go SSJ4 then Vegetto could go SSJ4 also because they are the same person or same two people.

But still in reality Vegetto is the master of the universe
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Ussj Future Trunks Nov 17 2010, 04:16 PM Post #140
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 they are basically the same being. and potarra in my manga was only stated as better and with no time limits. no proof gogeta is weaker or stronger. but theres evidence that they are basically without much difference in power even if vegito is a little stronger. both these guys would curbstomp everyone else in z
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Nusu Nov 17 2010, 04:45 PM Post #141
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Piccolo Daimao > Piccolo Jr.

Both would be equal, if its Goku and Vegeta (After Seal).
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deploy Nov 30 2010, 05:47 PM Post #142
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 But in the movie Vegeta says Goku has progressed whilst he has remained the same. :D

Anyways, here's a little fun fact.

Fun fact

Just for fun folks. :p
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King Kamehameha! Dec 7 2010, 11:26 PM Post #143
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 In my opinion its quite obvious that Vegito would go victorious, but that isn't exactly my preference.

I'd much rather have Gogeta win, just because I like him lol. He has this kind of super laid back attitude.

P.S.- I always though Vegito was more 60% vegeta and Gogeta was 60% Goku.
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+ Pyrus Dec 7 2010, 11:43 PM Post #144
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 I now think it'd take basically everything Vegetto has to beat Gogeta. They're basically the same being and have roughly the same amount of power. The Potara method just produces a more complete fighter, allowing the product more power than with Fusion.
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lunar2 Dec 8 2010, 12:19 AM Post #145
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 given the information we have, vegito must be more powerful than gogeta. here is why.

a. goten and trunks were close in power to gohan, and ssj gotenks (pre) was nearly equal to ssj3 goku.

b. gotenks (post) was even with super buu as an ssj3. and was at least as powerful in base as he was as an ssj prerosat. there are many different ways to interpret the power of fusion and of the transformations, but the most reasonable, imo, put goten and trunks (post) even with goku.

c. if goten and trunks (post) are even with goku, that means that gogeta is even or a little weaker than gotenks.

d. vegito was more powerful as ssj2 (ch. 505 pg. 2, the lightning is clear during the initial transformation) than buuhan, who was more than twice as powerful, but less than 3x ssj3 gotenks. putting ssj2 vegito at a minimum of 3x ssj3 gogeta.

even without the potara's rival boost, which i put at 2x for convenience, vegito is 1.5x(ssj3 multiplier, i use 4x) as powerful as gogeta, or 6x, in this example. there is really no comparison between gogeta and vegito, except that they come from the same 2 people. but if you take the same ingredients, and you cook them a different way, you do not get the same dish.
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+ Pyrus Dec 8 2010, 01:20 AM Post #146
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 The Potara doesn't have a rival boost, at least not like a lot of people are thinking. That's a misconception. It's just a better method, as said by Elder Kaioshin. BUT, Elder Kaioshin said Vegetto turned out so strong because of Goku and Vegeta. When Kibitoshin said it was because of the Potara, Elder Kaioshin corrected him and said it was because of those two.

Which leads me to believe Gogeta would be more powerful than Gotenks no matter what, because Goten and Trunks just don't have what Goku and Vegeta have.
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lunar2 Dec 8 2010, 01:29 AM Post #147
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 but, like i said. without that 2x or whatever bonus they get from being them, ssj2 vegito is 6x as powerful as ssj3 gotenks. and the potara is magic, with all the weird twists and turns that that entails, but the fusion dance is just a technique, invented by a weak race to make themselves strong. its basically a multiform in reverse (not exactly, but same concept).
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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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+ Pyrus Dec 8 2010, 01:34 AM Post #148
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but, like i said. without that 2x or whatever bonus they get from being them, ssj2 vegito is 6x as powerful as ssj3 gotenks. and the potara is magic, with all the weird twists and turns that that entails, but the fusion dance is just a technique, invented by a weak race to make themselves strong. its basically a multiform in reverse (not exactly, but same concept).
But it doesn't stop Gogeta from being ultra powerful because of Goku and Vegeta.
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lunar2 Dec 8 2010, 01:44 AM Post #149
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 i just dont see the fusion dance varying much from pair to pair. it is a straight 5.5x the combined power of 2 equal fighters, imo. there is really nothing stating that the rules for the potara are the same as for the fusion, since beyond the basic 2 people become 1, they are very different. yes, the potara is more powerful when used by a pair like goku and vegeta, but i just dont see why that would carry over from the magic potara to the fusion technique. the rules are different for magic, as seen by gohan getting so strong in under a day of training with the z sword. weight training doesnt do things like that, that quickly.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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deploy Dec 10 2010, 05:05 PM Post #150
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 "i just dont see the fusion dance varying much from pair to pair. it is a straight 5.5x the combined power of 2 equal fighters, imo."
When you're bringing in numbers please do back them up, cause anyone can just put random numbers and try to make a statement.

"there is really nothing stating that the rules for the potara are the same as for the fusion, since beyond the basic 2 people become 1, they are very different."
There's nothing saying the rules are any different either (power wise), and here you are making it a fact that they are? Care to name a few different rules?

"yes, the potara is more powerful when used by a pair like goku and vegeta, but i just dont see why that would carry over from the magic potara to the fusion technique."
If you're talking about the rival boost, you should know that it has nothing to do with the pottara, it all about Goku and Vegeta (and they're present in both equations)

"the rules are different for magic, as seen by gohan getting so strong in under a day of training with the z sword. weight training doesnt do things like that, that quickly."
What does Gohan's sword training have to do with magic?? Heavy sword is just that, a heavy sword. The only magic about that sword is that there's a Kai inside of it, I really don't see how that changes things for Gohan though, unless you're sugesting the Kai was boosting Gohan's powers from the inside?
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