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goku vs superman
Topic Started: Nov 19 2007, 07:38 PM (2,138 Views)
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Oh nop, sorry, I got stuck on Tyro's post and after reading the link he posted I totally forgot to read what people below had said.

I just finished reading your arguments and you puzzled me again, I'm not much into Superman as I said above so I don't have a clear vision of who would win. I'm just not sure about the part Superman could blow out a star with his breath. I don't think Goku would be able to do that, but again, I'm not even sure if that is a solid reason for Superman to win.

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Exactly, I dont have alot of knowledge on superman or anything but im pretty sure being able to blow out a star with your breathe contributes to winning a fight
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Nov 30 2007, 01:11 AM
wow I was the only one that saw the link? I thought it was strange everyone still saying Goku would win. But meh I don't like superman, Goku is my fave DBZ character but based on what Tyro posted, Superman wins, even though I dont like him

nah i saw tyros post too.. but would goku win if he stuck a criptonite up SM's *****
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Dark Slade Goku cannot withsatnd the heat of the sun -_- that episode on the namek saga where goku is heading for the sun it even said he would die. That is an advantage for Super-Man also blowing up a star with HIS breath says a lot, Goku can't do that, so Super-Man would just do that and PWN goku right there.

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Im pretty sure Goku has deflected blasts much more powerful than 6 A-bombs


The strongest blast deflected by Goku was Majin "Fat" Boo's Kamehameha which destroyed a tenth of the Earth since it wasn't directly right at the Earth. True, that is more than the force of six atomic bombs, but this isn't what Superman stood up to in this quote. It's what his suit alone did.

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Again, I'm pretty sure the energy of the blasts that get fired his way are alot hotter than a sun,


Proof that ki blasts get hotter as they get stronger, or are naturally hotter than the sun?

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even if not, im not sure how being able to withstand heat lets you instantly win a fight.


You're looking at things incorrectly throughout the quotes. These are not conditions both Superman and Goku will be under, they're proving the feats of the fighters, thus allowing us to accurately compare who is stronger. Withstanding intense heat shows endurance on a grand scale.

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I'm also positive Goku moves just as fast


Proof that Goku can move trillions of times faster than the speed of light while using SSj3 by the end of Dragonball Z? Yes, that is how fast Silverage Superman can travel. Here you can see Superman travels at infinity times lightspeed.

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How does being able to blow out a star with your breathe make you a good fighter?


Because, if Superman can blow out the flame of a sun with his own breathe, image what he could do to someone's flesh. Lord forbid he sneezes on Goku. He blew away an entire solar system that way.

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Skin of steel? Goku blocked Trunks sword with his finger, Im pretty sure whatever Goku did, made his skin as hard as steel too


It's pretty obvious Superman is actually way beyond "steel" strength. He was comparing his skin to normal people's. You're taking "skin of steel" way too literally.

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Goku can move just as fast and therefore can do everything Superman did in that paragraph


Again, proof?

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Again, Im not quite sure how constructing a city in seconds and travelling so fast you move back in time lets you win a fight, infact, superman better be careful, if he moves too fast he may wind up in a different timeline and forfeit the fight >.>


Again, they're showing feats of characters. That's how we compare characters from one series to the next. Feats. Showing Superman can construct a building in seconds, thus moving lightspeed-like and multitasking is another speed feat.
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what about kryptonite? Superman may be superior to Goku in almost everything but Goku could just use kryptonite to render superman harmless
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Where is Goku going to find Kryptonite? What if theres no kryptonite

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hehe, i have the perfect answer, were talking about silver age superman right? well

this is from wikipedia
"The amount of kryptonite shown to fall on the Earth in Silver Age stories is too large to have been evenly distributed from the explosion of any reasonably sized planet. The most common explanation in the comics for this anomaly is that the kryptonite was not evenly distributed, but rather that kryptonite and other materials from Krypton were dragged to Earth by the experimental warp drive that brought Superman to Earth"

and if that fails, Kryptonite can be made, Goku could ask bulma to make it
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How can superman move infinity times the speed of light, Infinity isnt even a number, its a constant
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I wonder what Supermans power level is :p

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Superman would win because of his mani talents
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Nov 19 2007, 07:38 PM
SCENARIO:

Frieza forms a secret alliance with Lex Luther, together they formulated a plan that would kill both Superman and Goku.

Frieza killed Chi Chi, Gohan and Piccolo, and Lex Luther told Goku that a man named Clark Kent, AKA Superman killed them, and that Superman was on his way to kill everyone in New York City.

Lex Luther killed Louis Lane, who was the wife of Superman, and then Frieza told Superman that Goku did it, and that Goku wanted to meet Superman in New York City.

When they meet, they misunderstand each other due to their rage, and decide to beat the living hell out of each other.

I assure you that I am trying to contribute to these forums, not spam. If some one proves their argument correct, and disproves my argument in the process, I will gladly admit that I was wrong.

I believe that Superman could kill Goku with a single punch, because of his superior strength, and I also believe that Superman is infinitely more immune to destruction than Goku, and that he is infinitely more durable. But I also believe that Superman could not lay a single punch on Dubbed Goku, due to his speed feats, which are shown above.

Goku would win due to his ability to absorb energy from the limitless single cell organisms all over the universe, and from deposits in stars. He usually does this to create a spirit bomb.


by the way i did not come up with this scenario

I don't understand. You say "I believe that Superman could kill Goku with a single punch, because of his superior strength" like it's been proven that Superman's strength is superior in the first place.

Goku also has instant transmission on his side, which is even faster than Superman's incredible speed. Goku could destroy planets with a simple breath of energy if he wanted.
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Dec 1 2007, 06:44 AM
Dark Slade Goku cannot withsatnd the heat of the sun -_- that episode on the namek saga where goku is heading for the sun it even said he would die. That is an advantage for Super-Man also blowing up a star with HIS breath says a lot, Goku can't do that, so Super-Man would just do that and PWN goku right there.

Why can't Goku blow up a star with a breath? Goku is much stronger than Majin Buu by the end of the series. And according to the Supreme Kai, Majin Buu can destroy a planet with a simple breath. Plus, just because Goku would be killed from the sun, doesn't mean he would lose. Superman would have to catch him first, and Goku is faster given his IT.
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Dec 1 2007, 04:40 PM
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Im pretty sure Goku has deflected blasts much more powerful than 6 A-bombs


The strongest blast deflected by Goku was Majin "Fat" Boo's Kamehameha which destroyed a tenth of the Earth since it wasn't directly right at the Earth. True, that is more than the force of six atomic bombs, but this isn't what Superman stood up to in this quote. It's what his suit alone did.

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Again, I'm pretty sure the energy of the blasts that get fired his way are alot hotter than a sun,


Proof that ki blasts get hotter as they get stronger, or are naturally hotter than the sun?

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even if not, im not sure how being able to withstand heat lets you instantly win a fight.


You're looking at things incorrectly throughout the quotes. These are not conditions both Superman and Goku will be under, they're proving the feats of the fighters, thus allowing us to accurately compare who is stronger. Withstanding intense heat shows endurance on a grand scale.

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I'm also positive Goku moves just as fast


Proof that Goku can move trillions of times faster than the speed of light while using SSj3 by the end of Dragonball Z? Yes, that is how fast Silverage Superman can travel. Here you can see Superman travels at infinity times lightspeed.

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How does being able to blow out a star with your breathe make you a good fighter?


Because, if Superman can blow out the flame of a sun with his own breathe, image what he could do to someone's flesh. Lord forbid he sneezes on Goku. He blew away an entire solar system that way.

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Skin of steel? Goku blocked Trunks sword with his finger, Im pretty sure whatever Goku did, made his skin as hard as steel too


It's pretty obvious Superman is actually way beyond "steel" strength. He was comparing his skin to normal people's. You're taking "skin of steel" way too literally.

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Goku can move just as fast and therefore can do everything Superman did in that paragraph


Again, proof?

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Again, Im not quite sure how constructing a city in seconds and travelling so fast you move back in time lets you win a fight, infact, superman better be careful, if he moves too fast he may wind up in a different timeline and forfeit the fight >.>


Again, they're showing feats of characters. That's how we compare characters from one series to the next. Feats. Showing Superman can construct a building in seconds, thus moving lightspeed-like and multitasking is another speed feat.

Superman can travel at the speed of light, but Goku's IT goes faster. Also, you keep asking the poster for proof. But this entire topic is based on speculation. No one can prove Superman can beat Goku and no one can prove Goku can beat Superman.
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