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Should gender changes be allowed ?
Topic Started: Oct 25 2007, 07:54 PM (1,174 Views)
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What do you guys think about this topic? Should gender changes be allowed? Is it justified that a man becomes a woman or viseversa?
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Well I think it should be allowed yeah. I Mean if they want to change it is their business not mine. It's not hurting me, so its not like I should have a say in it anyways.

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I agree with Yankees, if someone feels like their trapped in the wrong body or something who has the right to say no to them, as yankees said it's not hurting anyone
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As somewhat of a libertarian I say Yes. Doesn't hurt me.
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Yes, I mean if someone doesn't like being a man or a woman and if it is hurting them phsycologically, then it's going to do them more good than bad. Although they won't be able to have children, they might feel a little better, maybe in the future the procedure will become more advanced.

Anyway, I don't know about in the US but in the UK you have to spend a year or so as the opposite gender to see if you are happy before going into the opperation for the change, so I think it's fine as it is.

No problems with it, if you have a problem with gender changes then you should definatly have a problem with people who have facelifts, I mean you're only going to want a facelift if you are worried about your looks rather than how you feel.
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That's tough. Especially if you are a devout Catholic or of some religion. I guess some religions may think that God made you a certain gender for a reason, and it should stay that way. I dunno, I'm Aetheist, so hell, I don't know what I'm saying. :p

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I have never understood gender changes in general. The biological and social aspects do not clearly specify what causes one to wish to change to the opposite gender. There are homosexual people, but what pushes that person further to completely change his/her identity.

I'm a Catholic, and I am open minded to various subjects. I am the type that believes God creates people special and unique, and they should learn to accept themselves. This expanding industry of plastic surgery is ridiculous. There are some people who do deserve plastic surgery if they are born with certain deformities, however, it is getting the point where people who have D sized breasts decide to go bigger.

With that said, I do not agree with gender changes because I feel as if one receives the positives of both genders. Also, it creates a superficial society. Will there be a time on this planet where people change everything about themselves? There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

Though they do receive constant, undeserved ridicule for their desires, I do not side with them.
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It's not about changing yourself just for the sake of it, it's about changing yourself because you don't feel right. There are people who don't feel like they are the right gender, they want to change that so they can get on with the rest of there life, it is a diagnosable mental disorder.

It's not "Oh I want to be female so I can touch my boobs" or "I want to be male so I can touch my penis", I mean some people might think that, but the majority that would have sex change would usually have a good reason for it and like I said above, there is a time before surgery that you have to act like the gender you are going to be before surgury.

For some people, that is enough and they don't want to go any further, but others will go the same way because they are sure that's what they want. You can draw a line wherever you like but if you are going to draw a line to prevent people from progressing psycologically then you really need to rethink how you're going about something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder
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I think were all going to dissapear very soon. With the homosexual population getting higher and higher and suddenly the idea of gender changing pretty soon there wont be anyone whos able to reproduce and then were all going to get abducted by aliens who drive spaceships that look like watermelons in the sky. And then theyre going to take us to planet rvnsjfks and do experiments.
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I think that stand point is kind of silly, not everyone is going to want a gender change and it is usually only those who really feel they aren't the right gender. I don't belive you can just say "I want to be the opposite gender" "Okay, you're booked for this tuesday" I mean that is stupid.

But you can't just say people shouldn't be allowed because then you might as well stop people who are depressed from taking anti-depresents, or take prostectic limbs away from people who need them. Some people need help and for some this is the only way.

Maybe in future they will be able to reproduce sexual organs for these people too so they could reproduce and such.
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What BBQ has said is true. These people don't change just to change. They change for a reason. A lot may feel pain being a man or a woman, and when they change their sex they have a better life. I don't agree with plastic surgeries like Oh man my nose is too small... oh man I have big ears... thats retarted. I do believe in plastic surgery for people that have defects on their face. I also believe people should be allowed to have a sex change if they are feeling painful being a man or woman then they should change, otherwise they would be in pain and depressed for the rest of their lives.

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Although the idea of someone wanting to change sex is a little.. odd.. to me, I am not against it. If someone wants to be the opposite sex then it's their choice. They have to live with themselves every day, go to sleep, wake up, eat etc etc. If it makes them happy go for it.
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Nov 4 2007, 07:37 PM
Although the idea of someone wanting to change sex is a little.. odd.. to me, I am not against it. If someone wants to be the opposite sex then it's their choice. They have to live with themselves every day, go to sleep, wake up, eat etc etc. If it makes them happy go for it.

lol so you're going for the "Whatever helps you sleep at night" approach? xD

Yeah i don't have any problems with it but what people don't seem to realise is that whenever you see it on TV shows (Ugly Betty comes to mind -_-) that you aint exactly gonna turn into the best looking person on the planet because of the genetics and bonestructuring and stuff... so... i'd agree with KidGohan to that extent...
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HustLa: Yes, and there is like 1,000 babies born a second, the world is growing too. Not just the homosexual population.

I really don't like it when people try and push their beliefs on somebody else. The world is different, 99% of the world isn't getting gender changes, you're not going to be forced to anytime soon, deal with diversity and stop worrying about other people and stick to your own life. People of the same gender want to have sex? Fine! Homosexual orgies FTW! I really don't care, as I'm not going to be in one. People want to change gender? Go for it! I really don't care, as I'm not going to be doing it. You want to be a racist? Fine. I won't approve of it, and neither will 90% of todays society, but, there is nothing I can do to change your mind.

People need to stick to their own life and stop trying to change other peoples' because they think that they must change the world to be just like them. You're not perfect, I'm not perfect, nobodies perfect, so stop trying to change people to be like you, they'll still be imperfect. It's their choice, live with it.
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I've read the article you posted BBQ, and I still do not understand why people wish to change to a different sex. I know that they are psychologically uncomfortable, but if we use science in this it does not make sense.

When they were discussing transgenderism in my class a few days ago, they used an example of a young boy putting on dresses and lipstick and feeling comfortable in them. This caused him to feel as if he was the wrong gender. So is this more of a social problem or is this genetic?

It does not make sense to me that someone would wish to change their gender simply because they feel more comfortable with a particular gender's "stereotypical" role. For instance, the stereotypical belief is that girls play with barbie dolls as opposed to toy cars. I played with toy cars and army men, and I never once felt uncomfortable with being a girl. So what makes other people's genetic formation different ? What causes this psychological change?

I understand that everyone is different, but if we look at it in a scientific point of view; how does someone born with estrogen or testoroine suddenly decide they are the wrong gender? I'm open minded about the subject. If there was a clear-cut reason why they desire to change to the opposite gender, then I would likely be for it. Conversely, there are various opinions on the subject, which contributes to me opposing it.
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