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Broly vs Cell(Perfect)
Topic Started: Jul 8 2007, 07:58 PM (3,130 Views)
gripton
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This versus seems to be very similar to the Broly vs. Teen Gohan one, and once again I have to go with Broly. The only way Cell could win is if the fight was written by the same idiots who made the Broly movies(they were probably my favorites just hated the endings). The only advantage I see Cell having is his regeneratin ability. He'd have to master that to the point where he could predict his injuries and heal them before they happen for it to matter that much. I doubt Broly would sit aruond and let him heal over and over again. Not to mention if Broly was losing who knows how much power he could dip into to get the upper hand. If anyone has this "unlimited power" it's Broly. I don't get this argument for Cell's "superior mind" either. Only reason I can see is that in the english dub his voice sounds like Elaine's boss, Peterman, from Seinfeld(who is definately super intelligent). After all the facts given I don't see how Cell would have a chance.

On a sidenote though I have two quick questions. What does FPSSJ stand for? I'm guessing full power super saiyan but not sure. And what exactly was it that Trunks did in movie 10 to screw up Broly's attack, and did it actually make a difference?
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Yes, it stands for Full Powered SSJ aka Mastered SSJ.

Trunks threw a small ki blast in front of Broly's Gigantic Meteor and by a miracle, it somehow blocked his energy blasts from powering up his attack and killing the heroes. A really stupid ending that *****ed me off :@
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...Gigantic Meteor... What the heck... oh... a DBZ Game move, please don't use DBZ Game Moves in reference to serious versus', Broly has no such move, it annoys me when people throw all these stupid names for regular attacks that FUNi made because it is confusing. It was a single ki ball that was shot.

FPSSj is the mastered SSj form that occurred after the Room of Spirit and Time w/ Goku and Vegeta in it, they learned to minimize the strain of the form on them.
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Uhm no...thats the name of the move he used...theres nothing wrong with pointing that out.

Doing that actually helps eliminate "confusion"






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No it's not, it is NEVER stated in the movie that is the name of the move he used, the name is coined in A Budokai Game for reference purposes since Broly HAS no real moves, the technique he used in movie 10 was no more than a simple ki blast.
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Everyone has real moves...The one he used at the end of Second Coming was the Gigantic Meteor since the blast of ki grew into a big green bomber when it was ignited the way we saw in Budokai 3 rather than just exploding like we saw with his Eraser Cannon earlier in the movie.
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The games just made up names for his moves. As they did with probably by far most of the moves. Would you want to have everyone's moves listed as enery blast? No, that's why the games just make up names for them. That is corrupteds point. All Broly does is fire ki balls. In the movies he never yells Gigantic Meteor when he fires a blast does he? Either way they mean the same thing though. This argument seems extremely irrelevant to the topic.

Back on topic though, does anybody have any thoughts on whether Gohan and Goku were FPSSJ's and whether Vegeta and Trunks had reached a higher leverl of SSJ in movie 8(can't remember if it was discussed or not)? If they were this would make Broly even more powerful than I thought. Timeline wise you'd think they had since Gohan could go SSJ and was a teen, and Trunks was older which means it had to be post RoSaT. I know it doesn't seem like they have reached that yet but they'd kind of had to have since they had all aged from training. Actually after watching it again it does look like Super Vegeta when he finally attacks Broly. I'm not really sure about what levels they are all at though.
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So? Ill call it w/e I want. They don't always have to yell out the name to use an attack and I explained how some are different.

Goku and Gohan were FPSSJ's in Movie 8 and Trunks and Vegeta were SSJ. They gave Goku the USSJ power they had on reserve. Movie 8 would take place during the 10 days before the Cell Games and Trunks & Vegeta vowed not to use USSJ again after their fights with Cell.
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Alright I was wondering about that. So wouldn't that mean that the Kamehameha Goku used on Broly(with less than no effect) is the same as he used on Cell to blow the crap out of him. That alone shows how much more powerful Broly is than Perfect Cell. They were both at point blank range too. Without Cells regeneration ability that would've killed him there. So my next question is, who got the bigger jump in power, Broly from his zenkai boost from one movie to the next, or Cell from blowing himself up and powering up to Ultra Perfect Cell? Since Broly is already ahead wouldn't Cell's boost need to be a good size larger to keep up?
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So wouldn't that mean that the Kamehameha Goku used on Broly(with less than no effect) is the same as he used on Cell to blow the crap out of him


Yes it is.

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That alone shows how much more powerful Broly is than Perfect Cell. They were both at point blank range too. Without Cells regeneration ability that would've killed him there.


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So my next question is, who got the bigger jump in power, Broly from his zenkai boost from one movie to the next, or Cell from blowing himself up and powering up to Ultra Perfect Cell?


Broly did, and the fact hes a Legend should make his zenkai even higher than a normal Saiyan. In Movie 8, he was already ahead of Full Powered Perfect Cell but not Super Perfect Cell. In Movie 10, he would've owned Super Perfect Cell.
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Full power SPC>Broly2nd>SPC>Full power><1st Broly full power>PC>MSSJ Goku> Broly

And cell wasn't even fighting Mastered SSJ goku at full power,PC couly easily do what broly did to the Z fighters.PC wanted to have fun and test his powers against goku.That's why he was holding back and while goku fought cell he was breathing heavily while cell wasn't so cell wins.
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Yeah, Cell didn't look like he was having fun right before that blast took his head and arms off. Also, if you are going to use Cell's breathing as an example, I don't remember Broly having a hard time catching his breath(and he looked like he was toying around way more than Cell was).
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Yeah, Cell didn't look like he was having fun right before that blast took his head and arms off. Also, if you are going to use Cell's breathing as an example, I don't remember Broly having a hard time catching his breath(and he looked like he was toying around way more than Cell was).

And broly was like ten days before the cell games and I bet goku was stronger than he was against broly.
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And broly was like ten days before the cell games and I bet goku was stronger than he was against broly.


Nope. it was anywhere from 1 to 10 days before the Cell Games and all Goku did was chill out. Other characters said he should've been training but he wasn't.

Dude, fact of the matter is Cell is just a b!tch against Broly. youre better off accepting it and moving on...

Movie 10 Broly >>>>>> SPC >> Movie 8 Broly >>> Full Power PC >>> MSSJ Goku
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^ Actually 7~10 days.And cell would have easily toyed with the z fighters like broly did at full power,every sayian form has there limit and broly could be bluffing about his "powerlevel is rising" B.S.Cell could keep on regenerating until he could just beat broly to the ground.And SPC was stronger than kid SSJ2 gohan and we all know that SSJ2 kid gohan>SSJ2 teen gohan.


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Yeah, Cell didn't look like he was having fun right before that blast took his head and arms off. Also, if you are going to use Cell's breathing as an example, I don't remember Broly having a hard time catching his breath(and he looked like he was toying around way more than Cell was).

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The instant kamehameha only took cell by surprise,it didn't really do much really.And that's why I see it as PC full power>><Broly full power.
Cell's abiltys would obviously be brolys demise!Cells zenkai>Brolys!
And I think when cell blew himself up he got so much damage he was already LEAGUES ahead of the first broly and a little or a bit more stronger than the 2nd broly.And in the original japanese broly movie vegeta and trunks worn't buff at all and they had normal SSJ muscle mass.And by the way broly only shoots regular ki blasts......
SPC full power>>2 broly full power>SPC>2nd Broly>>PC full power><Broly full power>Cell>Broly>PC(fighting againt goku,wegeta&trunks)
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