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| Balthazor | Jan 7 2008, 06:30 AM Post #16 |
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I'm damn serious
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I would say that they are pretty even,but since broly took down 5 fighters with ease I would say broly but then again cell has regeneration and smarts so I think it's Broly=Cell |
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Jan 7 2008, 06:49 PM Post #17 |
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Gee, now I wonder why you'd think they are equal? We have no clue the extent of how smart Broly is. I mean, it's not like he ever did anything that wasn't smart. And regeneration only matters if you aren't power enough to blow someone away with energy blasts (like Gohan's blast to finish Cell off, as opposed to Goku's blast which wasn't enough to destroy every Cell in Cell's body). Broly is probably powerful enough to finish him off in a blast. IMHO smarts and regeneration aren't enough to make up the difference in power, and once again there is no real way to tell that Cell is actually smarter, and that regeneration would make any kind of difference. |
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| Sam | Jan 7 2008, 06:58 PM Post #18 |
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.
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You're using "smarts" as an excuse that Cell is magnitudes more powerful than Broly. Read one of my first posts. |
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| Balthazor | Jan 7 2008, 10:43 PM Post #19 |
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Okay dude you are definetly a broly fanboy,PC would beat broly with a struggle but when it comes to SPC any broly is a pile of crap in sec. |
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| ‡Lex‡ | Jan 7 2008, 10:49 PM Post #20 |
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isnt ledgendary super saiyan equal to ssj2 which is super perfect cell? but if it did come to that not sure if broly has enough speed to keep up but he probably has more strength than cell, I see it as a super trunks vs perfect cell scene. |
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| Balthazor | Jan 8 2008, 03:21 AM Post #21 |
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The SS2 gohan that broly fought was alot weaker than his teen self. And i sorta agree with the above users "Super trunks vs PC" And by the way SPC is the pefect cell with the lightning aura. |
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Jan 8 2008, 04:50 AM Post #22 |
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Broly fan boy? Did it ever occur to you that you're just a Cell fan boy? I mean, hello, you actually have him in your SN. Broly isn't even one of my favorites, much less my top favorite. I can't believe that you think regular Perfect Cell would beat Broly. That's just hilarious. Regular Perfect Cell was only a little stronger than Goku and Gohan at SSJ, yet 4 SSJ's and a Super Namek weren't even effecting Broly LOL. Yet somehow regular Pefect Cell is stronger than Broly? As for Ultra Perfect Cell, there really is no way to tell. Broly is much stronger than regular Perfect Cell. And while Ultra Perfect Cell is stronger than just regular Perfect Cell, there's no real way to know the extent of the difference. There's no measuring factor, like there is when you compare Broly to regular Perfect Cell. I wouldn't be surprised if Ultra Perfect Cell were stronger than movie 8 Broly, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were the opposite. You are basing your argument off of smarts and regeneration, which only proves how biased you are. It's really reaching on your part. |
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| Balthazor | Jan 8 2008, 06:35 AM Post #23 |
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it took only a weak super sayian goku and energy from his half alive friends and a puch to the gut to beat broly,you don't see cell getting killed with a fist to the stomach.I could give you more reasons why it's SPC>PC>Broly.Plus spc can do a instant kamehameha and blow broly to bits. Ok here I go ok the order goes as follows Lssj Broly<Perfect Cell<Super perfect cell. an obvious reason for this is Broly if cannon would be pre-cell games. This means that Goku would be at the same lvl he was while fighting Cell. Goku had a huge energy boost from piccolo,Trunks,Gohan,and Vegeta thus was able to damage broly. Broly was very capable of being defeated where as Cell just regenerated after every blow taken from Goku. thus goes as stated non-cannon and cannon: SSJ Goku<Lssj Broly<FPSSJ Goku<Perfect Cell<Super perfect Cell. Just because it took 4 Super Saiyans and a Super Namek to kill Broly doesn't mean it wouldn't have taken the same amount if not more to kill cell. Don't say Gohan could have killed him with one hand because he didn't have ssj2 fighting broly or cell in the beginning anyway. Now for Broly's second movie. Broly comes back but is about as strong as he was in the first movie. Gohan is ssj2 and by this time that means Cell was defeated 7 years ago then Gohan as you know is far weaker than he was. yes he is weaker but still an ssj2. goes as follows: Adult ssj2 Gohan<lssj Broly<Teen ssj2 Gohan=Super Perfect Cell. theres your answer if that doesn't make it obvious enough. in conclusion Broly would get his ars handed to him because of Cells superior mind,limitless power and regenerative ability. |
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Jan 8 2008, 08:46 AM Post #24 |
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Well that was the problem with the ending, it didn't make sense. All 5 of them at full health and power couldn't even effect him, yet they ended it with them channeling their power to Goku, meaning it would be less power than before, which is why it didn't make sense. But what I think was the case, is that Goku punched Broly in the stomach to channel all of the energy inside of Broly (like Vegeta did with Cui, and Frieza with Krillin, which would explain why he was blowing up, because of all that power in just one body). Fact of the matter is this, all 5 of them at full health couldn't effect Broly, yet Cell had somewhat of a challenge with just two SJJ's, and both individually where he was at full health. That alone, already proves that Broly is stronger than Cell. And no one can say it was before the time chamber, because Trunks had grown out his hair spending time in the time chamber, and had the long hair in the movie. Plus Trunks went into his Super Trunks form, and Gohan was older. Fact is, Cell took Goku as a serious challenge, while Broly was beating him senseless without even breaking a sweat. So once again, that fact alone proves Broly is more powerful than regular Perfect Cell. I can't believe that you think Broly in his second movie is only slightly stronger than himself from the first movie. That's a load of junk, he was much stronger by that time. I think you are strongly underrating Adult Gohan at SSJ2. While it's true he got weaker, it's not as much as Vegeta says. Vegeta is the opposite of Goku, he is always underestimating his opponents. He also said Piccolo was still the same after spending time in the time chamber, despite Trunks admitting that Piccolo was much stronger than he was before the time chamber. Then Vegeta thought he was stronger than Goku after both had gotten out of the time chamber for the first time (well only time for Goku obviously), despite the fact that Goku was much stronger. Adult Gohan could easily beat Regular Perfect Cell, yet his hits also weren't effecting Broly once again. There is so much evidence that supports Broly is much stronger than Regular Perfect Cell, that it's clear you only want Cell to be superior due to the fact you are a big fan of Cell. Edit: Oh yeah, and there is not even evidence that Cell has a "superior mind" to Broly's. That's another sign of proof that you are just saying these things because it's hard for you to admit someone is stronger than one of your favorite characters. And limitless power? LOL, Broly was getting stronger every second. Cell showed no signs of "limitless power". |
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| Balthazor | Jan 8 2008, 10:23 AM Post #25 |
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If broly throws a omega blaster and if cell regenerates he gets stronger^and not everything vegeta says is false vegeta said gohan was even weaker then he was when he was a kid and Dabura=PC and gohan at super sayian was having a hard time with dabura,meaning even gohan at his SS2 teen form he is weaker then SPC meaning that SPC>Broly and I will say this PC would have a very hard time with broly but would get stronger and stronger witch would lead to brolys demise. |
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Jan 8 2008, 07:06 PM Post #26 |
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Vegeta said Gohan was weaker than when he was fighting in the Cell Games. Your regeneration theory would make sense, but only if it were almost impossible to destroy every cell within him. It's not even close to being impossible. A big blow from Broly would be enough to wipe him out completely. |
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| Broly The LSSJ | Jan 8 2008, 10:03 PM Post #27 |
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What actually happened was FPSSJ Goku gathered all the energy from his friends and made it into a highly focused punch. I like to think of this when Piccolo, Gohan and Krillin focused their melee attacks on one specific point of Cooler's robots in Movie 6. The extra power up from Gohan, Piccolo, Trunks & Vegeta made Goku alot stronger than what he was in the Cell Games. He was already a Mastered Super Saiyan before begging them for energy. Also, Broly was not at full power. If he was, that punch wouldn't of hurt him as much. Hope that makes more sense on how he lost in the first movie.
If anyone has unlimited power, its Broly. Nowhere is it hinted that Cell does unless you mean when he keeps regenerating which isn't the same thing.
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| Sam | Jan 8 2008, 10:18 PM Post #28 |
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Perfect Cell, your logic is so flawed. Broly in movie 8 fought a number of characters, you can tell how powerful they were by one simple thing, Teen Gohan. This was post Room of Spirit and Time, Goku at his full power fought Cell and did damage to him (though, Cell wasn't at full power, HE DID power up however so lets put him at a conservative 50% full power), Goku at full power damaged Cell and hurt him a few times and even had him exhausted, had he been Full power Goku would've stood less of a chance, but, Teen Gohan! Teen Gohan is stronger than Goku as an SSj and Broly even pummeled him in MOVIE 8 without a scratch on him, and he did it twice! Now you're pitting plain Perfect Cell vs Broly movie 10 who received such a power up he held off SSj2 Gohan, SSj Goku, SSj Goten with ONE ki ball and at 50% full power (probably less than 50% since Freeza once he ascended to his final form was only at 2-3% of full power, and when Goku was in FPSSj he was less than 50%, and he powered up to about half power on Karin's Lookout, but, we're being conservative, Broly never powered up after turning LSSj, EVERY TIME someone transforms in the series they always have room to power up, Semi-Perfect Cell, Imperfect Cell, Piccolo, Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Burdock, etc.) AND the techniques the trio were using were Kamehameha's, which, according to Raditz' scouter reading in Dragonball Z Vol. 1, doubles-triples your power, all that with one ki ball. And yet, you're saying Perfect Cell who was hurt by a full power FPSSj Goku who isn't even Super Saiyan 2 at half power (yeah it was only half but honestly the extra 50% wouldn't make enough difference) could beat Broly "to bits", and Goku is older and more trained now so the Goku that Broly held off with one ki ball (ALONG with a Super Saiyan 2 who, mind you, defeated ULTRA Perfect Cell, and another SSj) was probably considerably stronger than 100% Perfect Cell, yet Broly in movie 10 held off Goku in SSj who is now in that timeline considerably stronger than 100% Perfect Cell due to training, ALONG with an SSj2 who defeated ULTRA Perfect Cell and another SSj, all using Kamehameha's that double your power, AND Broly was only at a conservative 50% full power or less AND he only used one ki ball. Your response to my post? "YUR JUST A BROLLY FANBOY" No, I'm an incredibly intelligent-DBZ-Wise individual who has to deal with Broly things related a lot since many people seem to be curious about him and I read the Manga a lot and even have the Super Vegito vs SSj Gogeta battle answer confidently. |
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| * Light | Jan 8 2008, 10:18 PM Post #29 |
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just to throw this in here, the Broly in movie 10 is far far stronger than the one in movie 8 because he has had a massive zenkai boost edit: Corrupt[ed] explained in a lot of detail why i personally think that Broly would eb the victor |
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Jan 8 2008, 11:01 PM Post #30 |
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That would make sense as well. Either way, I don't think it was because they were more powerful than him, otherwise they would have won well before then instead of getting owned with ease by Broly. |
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