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| Strawberry | Dec 18 2007, 11:01 PM Post #91 |
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I believe Akira didn't want to have the work of coming up with a design for a female Ssj. It's not like he couldn't do it, he has created much more difficult designs, I think that was just not what he had in mind for the female characters of the series. If you think twice, only a few female characters had some relevance, and they all eventually lost it anyway except maybe Bulma. He wanted the main focus to be on the male characters. That's why he developed 3 Ssj forms for characters like Goku and Gotenks, and Ssj2 for Vegeta and Gohan. |
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| Brolly'ssweetface | Dec 19 2007, 05:01 AM Post #92 |
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That's what I was saying. |
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| Strawberry | Dec 19 2007, 11:39 AM Post #93 |
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That's one of the reasons why some people (well, especially girls) complain that DBZ was a bit sexist. I can't say much, though, 'cause my fav character (Android 18, uhhh everybody knows it ) was one of the few women who had some big action and importance on the series.
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| Trifer | Dec 19 2007, 03:11 PM Post #94 |
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Thou I can draw...I didn't make this. xD I found em on DeviantArt,somebody colored them. But the original drawings were made by toyble. @_@ Edit: *noticed two more posts after the one he quoted* Probly one reason Akira didn't design SSJ girls ir probly because many artists find it harder to do certain female designs...iono sometimes girls are harder to draw then guys,maybe because they have more detail or certain aspects that are harder to portray? o.o And I wasn't really bothered with the whole DB being ''sexist" till GT. I mean we where introduced to Pan and Bra in the final chapter of the manga,and they where rather young too. So anything was possible with them. Then GT aired,Pan got annoying,didn't make much of a change except with her appreciation of Goku and the series was focused WAY to much on Goku. I guess Akira also took DB the direction he did because of the pressure from the fans,because we know Akira ain't sexist,afterall isn't the protagonist of Dr. Slump a girl? |
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| SSJ4_Prince_Vegeta | Dec 31 2007, 09:59 PM Post #95 |
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I don't think these questions can be answered...there are too many unknowns here and everyone wants to fill in their own feelings. How are any of us supposed to know why the girls were never SSJ? MAYBE they were: 1.unmotivated 2.weak 3.creators unsure of look 4.creators unwilling to bring new SSJ's into the picture 5.creators are sexist maybe its all of these things put together! Maybe there were so many issues that the creators just said "screw it, no girl SSJ's" Haha that would be funny |
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| Damaged | Jan 1 2008, 09:44 AM Post #96 |
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Well i don't think girls should think its sexist i mean, you only see two Female saiyans in the whole thing, they don't complain about that. |
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| Brolly'ssweetface | Jan 2 2008, 02:22 AM Post #97 |
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I don't beleive it's sexist. Besides im very satisfied and pleased with Fasha being in TB3, she kicks *****. If the creaters were sexist, they wouldn't have bothered with her. It's like Akira said in that interview, he couldn't think of a design. A shame, but that's how it turned out in the end. |
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| Sam | Jan 2 2008, 08:16 AM Post #98 |
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All of them could have been, but, putting girls in these games attracts the female audience, no matter how sexist you are, it's money before personal disputes. |
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| Brolly'ssweetface | Jan 4 2008, 02:34 AM Post #99 |
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I guess you're right. >< |
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| SuperGohanfan | Feb 5 2008, 10:11 PM Post #100 |
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I don't know if it would have helped the show be better to see girls go saiyans. But it would have been pretty cool if that happened. I would have liked to seen Braw fight a lot, they blew it with that dang. |
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| Kid-Buu | Feb 6 2008, 03:58 AM Post #101 |
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I think it would have just made GT more interesting. And I like those pictures from before. I really don't think it would take that much time to create a a design like that for a Super Saiyan female. |
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| Strawberry | Feb 6 2008, 12:28 PM Post #102 |
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He did much harder designs... I really do believe that was an excuse, he probably just didn't want to have female SSJ, female characters barely had any relevance anyway. Bulma had her moments, so did Android 18 and Videl, but they had their time and then they totally disappeared. He gave Goku 3 SSJ levels, I believe he just wanted to focus on Goku and Vegeta, so he didn't mind creating a female SSJ. |
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| + Rebel X | Feb 6 2008, 12:52 PM Post #103 |
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From looking at the posts it seems like Akira either didn't care too much about the female side or he couldn't decide how to design such a character that could go SSJ. I think they should have and it could have been possible, Chi-chi and Videl were such great frighters back in the day so I don't think it was too much of a surprise that Pan ended up being powerful and probably should have gone SSJ. Bra's charater I think most likely originated from Bulma original character in DB, spoiled and just not much of a fighter. Yes Bulma did def. become more helpful in DBZ, she was always thier helping in some way. Reading the scouters, the radar, the suits Vegeta and Trunks used in the chamber and so much more. Vegeta's stuborness went to his daughter not his power. I think they could have given Bra some sort of saiyan abilities but i dunno how much it would effect everyone else. |
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| Zeepwhat | Aug 27 2009, 03:49 AM Post #104 |
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The creator of DBZ couldn't "think" of what a girl SSJ would look like so he left that out. But yeah it would have been cool if pan or bulla could turn super saiyan. Pan is 1/4 saiyan and Bulla (Bra) is 1/2 saiyan. Bulla would have been "able" to acquire that much power. Pan would have too because even Pan's Grandson, Goku Jr. was able to turn SSJ. Trunks and Goten were conceived with their fathers being Super Saiyans. Gohan wasn't but even he still managed to become SSJ. My guess is that they would have been super saiyans if he could've thought of an image of what a girl SSJ looks like. |
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| SSJ2Vegito | Sep 27 2009, 10:54 AM Post #105 |
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Akira Toriyama (the creator) thought of making pan a super saiyan but he abandoned the thought as it was difficult for him to make the designs. It is not related to the percentage of saiyan blood, for example in the movie 'Hero's Legacy' Goku.Jr who was 1/16 saiyan became a super saiyan!!!!!
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It is not related to the percentage of saiyan blood, for example in the movie 'Hero's Legacy' Goku.Jr who was 1/16 saiyan became a super saiyan!!!!!

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