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Why couldn't Vegeta transform ssj 3
Topic Started: Jan 23 2007, 06:30 PM (3,422 Views)
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Why couldn't vegeta transform super sayian 3 it sucks he couldn't he most likley trained as much as Goku or even more
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The theory is that no "single" body can attain SSJ3 since it is such a strain.

Goku only learnt it because he died.....in otherworld the strain is less, so he was able to not only learn it, but use it.

Since he was brought back to life having learnt it already, he was able to use it in the real world, but not for very long.

Gotenks was able to use it because he had the collective energy of both Goten and Trunks.

Also Vegeta wasnt able to learn SSJ3 once he had died fighting Buu since he wasnt granted the priviledge of keeping his body once he died.

EDIT: Actually now I think about it, that last point might not be accurate... I seem to remember King Emna boasting that he let Vegeta keep his body because he could see him being sent back to Earth to fight Buu in the future...

...Could be wrong
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Well I think he gave his body back when he planned on sending him back so I don't think he had it during the time he was dead.
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It was stated Vegeta's body was kept in case they needed him.

IMO the answer is because Vegeta was a lot weaker than Goku during that time. He was astounded that Goku could reach such a high level; high enough to fight perfect Cell using a certain percentage of his power. IMO Vegeta only slightly mastered the SSj state. Going by aura output and the size of the muscles.
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It's only fact Goku is stronger than VEGETA :p
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I know I love Vegeta and all, but I learned how to accept the fact that he can't turn SSJ3. But yeah, Goku was able to learn it in the otherworld and Gotenks has the energy of 2 people. Besides, Goku won't be able to use it for long.
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Yeah, the only way he'd be able to learn SSJ3 would be for him to die or to receive massive training in another dimension such as the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
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Sorry for the bump but i will provide the answer

Pretty much there are two reasons: 1st)Is because you need to be extremely powerful to reach SSJ3. Vegeta was nowhere near the power level of an SSJ3...2)Is because you need to have a calm mind.(stated by Goku). Vegeta is a *****ed off angry ignorant douche who will never have a calm mind. Somewhat like the requirements of the Numbus Cloud
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Goku acheived this form in afterlife by training
But Vegeta didn't train enough and PLUS Vegeta is not strong enough to acheve it
Thats my sugguestion

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i always thought vegeta would have tried to get to ssj3 after buu though maybe after that saga and he'd given up his obsession with goku he just didnt train to become one?
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Goku has hax. Srsly. :P

Oh and this:

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The theory is that no "single" body can attain SSJ3 since it is such a strain.

Goku only learnt it because he died.....in otherworld the strain is less, so he was able to not only learn it, but use it.

Since he was brought back to life having learnt it already, he was able to use it in the real world, but not for very long.

Gotenks was able to use it because he had the collective energy of both Goten and Trunks.

Also Vegeta wasnt able to learn SSJ3 once he had died fighting Buu since he wasnt granted the priviledge of keeping his body once he died.


..and even if Vegeta still had his body in the afterlife, he wasn't dead for very long. Goku had 7 years to train without the limitations of his physical body.

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Agreed. Vegeta can do it, but unlike Goku he didn't have 7 years in an after life full of oppenents and formidable fighters helping him train. He also had the surroundings like no other. He could meditate properly. Vegeta didn't have anyone strong enough to fight him. He was always at Capsule Corp, which probably wasn't the best place for meditation. Signifcant differnce in the 7 years that pasted and why Vegeta's trnasformation didn't occur.

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to be honest once Goku died Vegeta didn't have anyone to surpass so why would he train to become a super siayan 3 when he was virtually the strongest being on earth anyway he was stronger than piccolo and gohan didnt train so he was stronger than him
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Edited by Gokan, Nov 6 2008, 11:11 AM.
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to be honest once Goku died Vegeta didn't have anyone to surpass so why would he train to become a super siayan 3 when he was virtually the strongest being on earth anyway he was stronger than piccolo and gohan didnt train so he was stronger than him
He would train knowing that there are others stronger warriors out there. Vegeta has to die sometime, and goku would train forever and ever. So would Vegeta.

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