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Krillin vs. Tien; End of DBZ
Topic Started: Dec 9 2006, 04:11 PM (2,745 Views)
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I am going with Tien on this one. During the beginning, I would have said Krillin is stronger, but he slowly starts to concentrate on his family rather than on his martial arts. In the Buu Saga, one sees a glimpse of Tien. He has not changed at all, and it seems he is fit from all his training.

Tien has always had more drive than Krillin. It is a shame both of them did not get in a ring to fight because I would have liked to see that.
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Jan 6 2008, 02:17 PM
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After the final battle with Cell, Krillin retired from fighting and quit training... Tien didn't. He trained in the mountains for seven years and comes back to save gohan, dende and mr. satan from buu's attack. Even if there is a gap between the two, Tien would have made up and surpassed it.

This is one of the most decisive reasons why Tien is stronger, in my opinion.

Tien has always been a much more focused and dedicated warrior, his intentions were always to become a great martial artist, while Krillin first started by wanting to impress and catch women's attention.

I'd give a few more reasons but your post summed up everything I was going to say and more.

::sigh::

I don't think anyone gets it. There's no opinion in the matter. Maybe in GT, you can speculate. But geez, when the guy who created DBZ says himself that Krillin is the strongest human aside from Uub, that kind of makes it a fact.
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Well, that does sound logic. But I think people here showed even more logic arguments and reasons to base why they think Tien is stronger.
I think everybody already knows that Akira said that, it's even explicit in the Buu Saga, Yamcha says Krillin is the strongest human alive, but that won't move my opinion.

Tien just proved to be stronger almost the whole time.

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Jan 6 2008, 06:16 PM
Well, that does sound logic. But I think people here showed even more logic arguments and reasons to base why they think Tien is stronger.
I think everybody already knows that Akira said that, it's even explicit in the Buu Saga, Yamcha says Krillin is the strongest human alive, but that won't move my opinion.

Tien just proved to be stronger almost the whole time.

maybe just becoase krillin never show his true strength..only when he gets mad...dats y evrybody think Tien is strong..dats my opinion

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You have no proof of this, Gohanisthebest123, you can say he said this but you have no proof. Even if he DID say this, he could be wrong, even if he created it, why? Because he didn't analyze enough.
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Dec 12 2006, 04:52 AM
I think that appart from in the namek saga when Krillin had his hidden potential unlocked by Grand Elder Sama, Tien has been consistantly stronger than Krillin.

Tien had to have been stronger then too. Think about it. Krillen didn't stand a chance against even Recoome, but while with King Kai Tien split himself into two entities (meaning that each of them would have 1/2 of his original power) and beat both Burter and Jeice (each of whom are stronger than Recoome) at the same time.
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,Jan 6 2008, 10:29 PM] You have no proof of this, Gohanisthebest123, you can say he said this but you have no proof. Even if he DID say this, he could be wrong, even if he created it, why? Because he didn't analyze enough.

Proof? So what, I'm a Tien fan that's lying about Toriyama stating Krillin is stronger? LOL Yeah ok. If I were a Krillin fan, I could see where you wouldn't believe me. But like I'm going to concede that Krillin is stronger than my favorite human fighter, and lie about it. If you don't want to believe me, fine, but you will be the one misinformed.

And what do you mean he didn't analyze it enough? Haha, it's the creator of DBZ. He is the one who decides who is stronger. These characters aren't real. It's fiction. He doesn't need to analyze anything about it, because he's the one who decides who is stronger, not any of the fans. But by all means, keep telling yourself that Tien is stronger just because you don't want to face a simple fact. Whatever floats your boat my friend.
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After the final battle with Cell, Krillin retired from fighting and quit training... Tien didn't. He trained in the mountains for seven years and comes back to save gohan, dende and mr. satan from buu's attack. Even if there is a gap between the two, Tien would have made up and surpassed it.

This is one of the most decisive reasons why Tien is stronger, in my opinion.

Tien has always been a much more focused and dedicated warrior, his intentions were always to become a great martial artist, while Krillin first started by wanting to impress and catch women's attention.

I'd give a few more reasons but your post summed up everything I was going to say and more.

::sigh::

I don't think anyone gets it. There's no opinion in the matter. Maybe in GT, you can speculate. But geez, when the guy who created DBZ says himself that Krillin is the strongest human aside from Uub, that kind of makes it a fact.

Do you have a link to where he said that?
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Jan 7 2008, 03:30 AM
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Jan 6 2008, 06:08 PM
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Jan 3 2008, 10:13 AM
After the final battle with Cell, Krillin retired from fighting and quit training... Tien didn't. He trained in the mountains for seven years and comes back to save gohan, dende and mr. satan from buu's attack. Even if there is a gap between the two, Tien would have made up and surpassed it.

This is one of the most decisive reasons why Tien is stronger, in my opinion.

Tien has always been a much more focused and dedicated warrior, his intentions were always to become a great martial artist, while Krillin first started by wanting to impress and catch women's attention.

I'd give a few more reasons but your post summed up everything I was going to say and more.

::sigh::

I don't think anyone gets it. There's no opinion in the matter. Maybe in GT, you can speculate. But geez, when the guy who created DBZ says himself that Krillin is the strongest human aside from Uub, that kind of makes it a fact.

Do you have a link to where he said that?

I don't have an internet link, because I read it in a magazine. But it's called "The World Of Anime: Dragonball Z", and the reference number on the back is 0165899.

I know it's not 100% proof because I can't link it, but I like Tien more than Krillin, so I don't see why I would make it up either. If people don't want to believe me, that's up to them. They will just be the ones who are misinformed, so it's no big deal to me lol.
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Don't get so mad.

He could say Puar is stronger than Chibi Boo, but, that doesn't make it right, does it? Or does it just because he made the series?
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,Jan 7 2008, 07:11 PM] Don't get so mad.

He could say Puar is stronger than Chibi Boo, but, that doesn't make it right, does it? Or does it just because he made the series?

Who said I was mad? Infact, I was laughing.

But he didn't say Puar was stronger than Chibi Boo.

He made the series, so if he says someone is stronger than another, of course it makes it right, because he's the one who decides how strong each character is. How in the World would he not be right about his own creations? I mean, I'm no quite sure that you understand how ridiculous it sounds to say that he may not be right about who's stronger, despite the fact that he's the one who decides how strong all characters are. So yeah, Krillin is stronger. Sorry, but it's a fact.
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Jan 7 2008, 08:07 PM
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,Jan 7 2008, 07:11 PM] Don't get so mad.

He could say Puar is stronger than Chibi Boo, but, that doesn't make it right, does it? Or does it just because he made the series?

Who said I was mad? Infact, I was laughing.

But he didn't say Puar was stronger than Chibi Boo.

He made the series, so if he says someone is stronger than another, of course it makes it right, because he's the one who decides how strong each character is. How in the World would he not be right about his own creations? I mean, I'm no quite sure that you understand how ridiculous it sounds to say that he may not be right about who's stronger, despite the fact that he's the one who decides how strong all characters are. So yeah, Krillin is stronger. Sorry, but it's a fact.

First of all, you still haven't produced any proof of his saying that.

Second, just because the creator says it doesn't make it so. The point is that the very nature of the anime would indicate that Tien is stronger, and always has been. Tien was stronger in the 22nd World Tournament in Dragon Ball. Tien put up a much better fight against Nappa than Krillin did. Tien beat Burter and Jeice at the same time on King Kai's planet, whereas Krillin didn't even stand a chance against the likes of Recoome. Krillin watched from the sidelines as Tien took on second-form Cell. As Krillin settled down to start a family, Tien continued to wander the wilderness in training.

This would be like Stan Lee saying that Reed Richards had more physical strength than the Hulk, dispite every shred of evidence suggesting otherwise. Perhaps Toriyama had simply forgotten about Tien at the time that he said that? If Krillin was truly stronger, Toriyama should have done a better job showing it in the manga, and the people who adapted the anime should have as well.
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Gohanisthebest123, did it ever occur to you that maybe Toriyama doesn't quite count Tien as a true "Human"? I mean, the guy does have a third eye.
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Jan 7 2008, 05:54 PM
maybe Toriyama doesn't quite count Tien as a true "Human"? I mean, the guy does have a third eye.

Don't even start this crap.

Not saying I agree with any particular side. Just putting that out there.
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,Jan 7 2008, 07:11 PM] Don't get so mad.

He could say Puar is stronger than Chibi Boo, but, that doesn't make it right, does it? Or does it just because he made the series?

Who said I was mad? Infact, I was laughing.

But he didn't say Puar was stronger than Chibi Boo.

He made the series, so if he says someone is stronger than another, of course it makes it right, because he's the one who decides how strong each character is. How in the World would he not be right about his own creations? I mean, I'm no quite sure that you understand how ridiculous it sounds to say that he may not be right about who's stronger, despite the fact that he's the one who decides how strong all characters are. So yeah, Krillin is stronger. Sorry, but it's a fact.

You have no proof that he said this though, sorry mate, it's NOT true. :)
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