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Saiyan Females; Super Saiyans?
Topic Started: Dec 3 2006, 08:23 AM (5,177 Views)
EightyThor
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hmm ok to all my knowledge of Dragonball Z & GT tha 2 females Pan & Bra can't or HAVEN't gone SS and i was wondering...

is it that females just can't? or that it's harder... or could be something to do with a womens menstrals [no offence to tha ladies] seriousy.. it could be.. if they had trained maybe we could have seen a female ss but like i said they might not have been able to achieve ss status. :huh:
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Don't think that's true, females should be able to gain SSJ form with enough training. Pan was still a girl, and well didn't train enough.
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The most interesting theory that ive heard is that going SSJ is all about emotional control, something that women lack XD

When any character goes super saiyan for the first time, they are focusing on a very important goal. They seem to only go SSJ when they block out all other thoughts, and focus all their mind on their motivation.

Ie, Goku wanting to beat frieza. Before he killed Krillin, Goku wasnt fighting Frieza to kill him, just to defeat him and test his power. Krillin being killed forced him over the edge, so all he could think about was beating Frieza.

The same kinda thing can be applied to all characters that go Super Saiyan.

This isnt being sexist, i dont want a million posts about how unfair and rude this is........its just a fact ladies......women DO have less emotional control. It aint a bad thing, its just the way y'ar.....


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Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. None of you know anything about a woman. HOw do you know we lack emotional control? Are you in our bodies? No. Actually I think it would be easier for a woman to turn Ssj than a man because when we get emotional about something that is all we focus on. In reality we show our emotions and that is what Goku did when he went against Frieza. There are men out there more emotional than women. It all depends on the person and I'm sick of this sexist bullcrap.

All of you men do not even know women. What emotional control do we lack? Just because we show emotions doesn't mean we can't control them. You are not in our bodies and I dare say this again, if you aren't a woman then don't assume anything. How dare you assume anything about us. The women in Dragonball GT they didnt train hard enough to become Ssj. I believe BUlla could have easily become a SSJ if she worked hard at it because her personality was just like her father's, all this is bull.

All sexist comments start with misunderstandings. I could say, you know women are better pilots because they handle G forces much better so...hey we shouldn't have any male pilots at all because well women just make better pilots and it is a proven fact. Whereas this is all assumption based on nothing, but testosterione and sexist anime authors. When did you ever see Bulla train? NEVER. Yessssssssssssss! *does an air five* SO how would she have been able to turn Ssj without doing some training? Pan didn't turn Ssj because of sexist authors...yes?
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Well, this thread is waiting for sexist comments. I have a feeling this will be locked soon... :rolleyes:

Anyway, I believe their fully capible of doing it. they just need to train hard enough.
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Dec 3 2006, 03:23 AM
hmm ok to all my knowledge of Dragonball Z & GT tha 2 females Pan & Bra can't or HAVEN't gone SS and i was wondering...

is it that females just can't? or that it's harder... or could be something to do with a womens menstrals [no offence to tha ladies] seriousy.. it could be.. if they had trained maybe we could have seen a female ss but like i said they might not have been able to achieve ss status. :huh:

Women's menstruals? You mean ovaries right ? Menstrual cycle is what we go through... <_< I never knew ovaries had something to do with physical capabilities considering I am athlete myself and I beat men in soccer all the time. :huh: I didn't have an author create me either who didn't think women were strong or capable of contuining their skills after pregnancy. :rolleyes:
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Dec 3 2006, 08:23 AM
if they had trained maybe we could have seen a female ss but like i said they might not have been able to achieve ss status. :huh:

Yeah, i personally beleive that female saiyans do not have the ability to go Super Saiyan, due to somthing genetic about the saiyan race.

We've seen Pan go through so much, and no power gains were detected, well minor ones if any.
Also, as we have seen goten and trunks turn SS at the ages of 7 and 8 respectively, while pan was not even close. Also Pan as a child faced many enemies, and many emotional furies, yet nothing great came of it other than her double beam attack which worked well against an elite machine mutant on planet M2, but we saw that these elites can simply be destroyed by a super saiyan aura.

Pan thought the person she loved the most had died. Now if that doesn't make you go super, then i dont know what will.

So, i come to the conclusion that female saiyans are unable to attain this form. Also beleive that they are weaker, as we see in the bardock special, saiyan teams are mostly made up of men, and perhaps one single woman.

I deduce that the men are stronger in that race.

There are my thoughts from what i have seen. If you think i am a sexist then you are a fool.
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Get over it, women have had to deal with sexism for thousands of years. We didn't see Pan go through any sort of training so we don't know if she was capable of going Ssj. Akira himself never said they couldn't go Ssj so then what makes it true? There are no facts behind it. Bulla never trained so we don't know what she is capable of and until we have evidence I refuse to continue this discussion any further. I also dislike some of the comments men make about women's emotions when they aren't in a woman's body. People are different, trust me when I get mad and you are the person I'm angry at you are all I am focused on. Don't make assumptions on things you don't know.
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Get over it, women have had to deal with sexism for thousands of years.


No, stop turning this topic into a sexism fight. Do a topic in the debate area. No one here hates against woman. This is a DBZ discussion, about an alien race that does not exist !!!

Do that again, and i will edit your posts.

Get this back on topic NOW.
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My opinion is women can go Ssj.


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ENough of this chichi !!
You are starting arguements for nothing !!

You should simply go :
I beleive female saiyans can go SS for this reason ....


NOt :

YOu guys are sexist !! You don't know what we woman have had to put up with !!
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Anyways, this is closed.

Another reason is because mostly men watch DBZ, keyword "most" and many of the viewers (men) would be a little iffed up and going huh? At a female going SSJ, maybe it's not a sexist thing but it makes them a little mad. Toei/Funi aren't that stupid to make Pan go SSJ so they fixed that. And YES, Males in the Saiyan Race are stronger than the females (I don't expect sexist pm's from the woman on the forum bitching me out cause I said that)

They should be able to go SSJ, but can't. Nuff said.

Edit: Chi chi, it's OVER with, maybe not in other countries but I expect not for you to blow off the handle over some stupid debate because some other people are saying points that are either misunderstanding or just plain correct. It's really REALLY annoying for it to happen on a constant basis whenever gender comes up so please stop it. Blacks have gone through more ya know and they aren't complaining. ANd just because they went through it for a thousand years (blacks hundreds) doesn't mean they weren't used to it. Religious beliefs lead them to think that (Catholicism still makes us think that, Catholicism states Men are perfect and Women are created from men thus imperfect. However I do not agree with that.)

So get the hell over it along with all the damn feminists in the world. Jesus.
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I am re-opening this topic because i am sure we can have a civilised and interesting convo about this.

Chichi and Heeaye should not ruin it for the other members.
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well I think that they can go, why wouldn't they? I mean if only we saw Pan in the hyperbolic time chamber like we saw gohan with goku, I'm pretty sure, she would turn super saiyan and be a lot more powerfull than she is at regular, ditto for Bulla

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i said i wanted this to go back on topic.
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