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Are Trunks and Goten capable of reaching Ssj2?
Topic Started: Nov 30 2006, 04:39 PM (7,720 Views)
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Now in the series I don't recall Trunks ever reaching Ssj2. Do you think he is capable of achieving this formation. Or was Gohan the only half saiyan capable of doing this ?
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Trunks can't, he ascended and so he cannot reach any further power. Gohan achieved it because he wasn't an idiot like Trunks and chose not to ascend, like Goku and Vegeta chose.
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That isn't true. Goku was able to do the same Ussj transformation as Trunks and he was capable of going Ssj2. So I don't think that is the reason. Let me hear from more people on what they think about whether or not they are capable of going Ssj2.
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No, I don't think they'd be able to reach SSJ2. I imagine it would take alot of hard / serious training to push past your limits. Goten and Trunks appeared to slack off near the end of DBZ. They don't have the attitude of being the best to push themselves far enough.
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Nov 30 2006, 10:23 PM
No, I don't think they'd be able to reach SSJ2. I imagine it would take alot of hard / serious training to push past your limits. Goten and Trunks appeared to slack off near the end of DBZ. They don't have the attitude of being the best to push themselves far enough.

Goten and Trunks slacked off? What DBZ where you watching? Gotenks reached SSJ3....a level which goku himself could only reach by dying and training in other world....

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Nov 30 2006, 10:51 PM
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Nov 30 2006, 10:23 PM
No, I don't think they'd be able to reach SSJ2. I imagine it would take alot of hard / serious training to push past your limits. Goten and Trunks appeared to slack off near the end of DBZ. They don't have the attitude of being the best to push themselves far enough.

Goten and Trunks slacked off? What DBZ where you watching? Gotenks reached SSJ3....a level which goku himself could only reach by dying and training in other world....

I'm talking AFTER the Buu saga and GT. Gotenks only reached SSj3 because of the Fusion, and being in a different dimension. Goku reached his in a different dimension, so I don't see how it;s different.
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I definetly think they are capable of reaching ssj2 after GT there power levels were much stronger and if they focused on their training they would be able to reach it with no problem.although they do slack of if Vegeta or goku was to train them i think they would.
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Nov 30 2006, 10:23 PM
No, I don't think they'd be able to reach SSJ2. I imagine it would take alot of hard / serious training to push past your limits. Goten and Trunks appeared to slack off near the end of DBZ. They don't have the attitude of being the best to push themselves far enough.

Goten and Trunks slacked off? What DBZ where you watching? Gotenks reached SSJ3....a level which goku himself could only reach by dying and training in other world....

I'm talking AFTER the Buu saga and GT. Gotenks only reached SSj3 because of the Fusion, and being in a different dimension. Goku reached his in a different dimension, so I don't see how it;s different.

Goku's reason for not going SSJ3 when fighting majin vegeta, is because he wasnt sure that his body could handle the strain in the real world.....

And turning SSJ3 in his various fights against the various Buus really tired him because of the energy required....

I think its safe to say that fighting in other world is easier, and less of a strain on the body....

Which makes gotenks SSJ3 transformation even more incredible
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Well SSJ3 Gotenks wasn't that much tired at all because he has the energy of 2 people. Goku only has his own energy. Anyway... if Goten and Trunks trained SUPER hard like Goku and Vegeta they might have a slight chance of getting there.
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Nov 30 2006, 11:37 PM
Goku's reason for not going SSJ3 when fighting majin vegeta, is because he wasnt sure that his body could handle the strain in the real world.....

I'm not so sure about that. Goku said he didn't transform because he wanted it to be a fair fight? Mabye I'm mistaken, but I think I remember that. He refused to destroy Vegeta's pride.
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Any one with Saiyan blood could potentually Transform to a Super Saiyan-jin and it's subsequant levels. It's just that certain requirements have to be met. And being that these two really slacked off (which really wouldn't have to be much being that they weren't training that hard in the first place) they never acheived these levels.


On a side note: What happened to the thread about Bra and Pan Super Saiyinship? I finally found some pretty decents what-if pics and can't find them now.

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Goku's reason for not going SSJ3 when fighting majin vegeta, is because he wasnt sure that his body could handle the strain in the real world.....

I'm not so sure about that. Goku said he didn't transform because he wanted it to be a fair fight? Mabye I'm mistaken, but I think I remember that. He refused to destroy Vegeta's pride.

Well it was both really....

When King Enma sends Vegeta back to earth to help in the fight against buu, Vegeta refuses to fuse with Goku because he saw his SSJ3 transformation from otherword and found out that he was holding back.....

He has a massive go at Goku about how his pride was damaged because he was holding back.....Goku tells him that he wasnt sure his body could handle SSJ3 in the real world.

I think youre right about the fact that Goku wanted a fair fight, but my point still remains.....going SSJ3 seems to be easier in otherworld.....
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Any one with Saiyan blood could potentually Transform to a Super Saiyan-jin and it's subsequant levels. It's just that certain requirements have to be met. And being that these two really slacked off (which really wouldn't have to be much being that they weren't training that hard in the first place) they never acheived these levels.


On a side note: What happened to the thread about Bra and Pan Super Saiyinship? I finally found some pretty decents what-if pics and can't find them now.

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Nov 30 2006, 10:23 PM
No, I don't think they'd be able to reach SSJ2. I imagine it would take alot of hard / serious training to push past your limits. Goten and Trunks appeared to slack off near the end of DBZ. They don't have the attitude of being the best to push themselves far enough.

Goten and Trunks slacked off? What DBZ where you watching? Gotenks reached SSJ3....a level which goku himself could only reach by dying and training in other world....

I'm talking AFTER the Buu saga and GT. Gotenks only reached SSj3 because of the Fusion, and being in a different dimension. Goku reached his in a different dimension, so I don't see how it;s different.

Goku's reason for not going SSJ3 when fighting majin vegeta, is because he wasnt sure that his body could handle the strain in the real world.....

And turning SSJ3 in his various fights against the various Buus really tired him because of the energy required....

I think its safe to say that fighting in other world is easier, and less of a strain on the body....

Which makes gotenks SSJ3 transformation even more incredible

I agree with this. Gotenks (SSJ3) is more powerful than Goku (SSJ3).

Anyways, as far as Future Trunks is concerned, I'm pretty sure that in his timeline he eventually reaches SSJ2, provided that he continues training, though there is no evidence.

Kid Trunks and Goten never reach SSJ2 because they never train. They're both slackers because of the peacetime, unfortunately. And this is further expressed in GT. So, they do have the capability of reaching SSJ2 but never let it happen.
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all saiyans are capable of reaching ss2... well except females which it seems to be either harded to go ss period or they just plain old CAN'T...

but anyway... Trunks & Goten could have if they trained
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