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Which Empires meant business?; What empires truly had power.
Topic Started: Nov 15 2006, 04:55 PM (1,512 Views)
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Nov 16 2006, 03:39 PM
I still say the british empire was the best v_v

If british was the greatest empire then why is that there are more spanish speaking countries, than there are English speaking countries? Spain took over practically all of South America, Central America, and parts of United States. They just took over. Even the French had more land than the English.
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Cos more contries speck Spainish does'nt mean it was a better empire, the Roman empire was the best, and French did'nt own more land than the British, they owned 40%, maybe less, of Canada, thats why some Canadians think there French.

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Yes it does mean it is the best because it succeeded in making more people their race, religion, etc. Romans ruled for a long period of time, but that is because they were uncontested for a long period of time. Spaniards had a lot of competition to go up against.
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england, the queen can influence so many people
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Even though I'd say the Queen holds no power on the UK whatsoever...It's blair
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The Britishers. No Contest. Its quite evident actually, France, Portugal, England and many other countries fought for the land in India, but Brits kept owning everybody that came in their way.

Industrial Revolution first took place in England, weapons, liberal ideas, strategic planning etc, the Brits were the first to achieve this all, and ended up with massive area under their control.
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Not just engalnd.Scotland,Wales and Ireland too.England isn't britain.
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Nov 16 2006, 08:39 PM
I still say the british empire was the best v_v

Yep, I second that.

Many countries have built themselves up into great powers over the few thousand years since civilization begun.

England owned a large chunk of the world.....owned 47% of the entire money in the world.....and as you rightly said, incredibly impressive armed forces.

We also invented industry....lets not forget that.....

Oh yeah.....and even after we lost most of our Empire, we still had the balls to stand up against Hitler because, purely because it was the right thing to do.....and NOT just because we got one of our Harbours bombed.


Britain all the way.....
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Nov 17 2006, 08:07 AM
Even though I'd say the Queen holds no power on the UK whatsoever...It's blair

well shes just a figure head remember that, she can influence hells alot of people but i guess she doesnt hold power just the power to be influencial
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Anyways i say Britan had the best Empire, they even rule other contries today like Austrilia, Canada,

.. :o_O:.. Canada is an independant country with it's own Prime Minister and laws

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England is'nt an Empire, its a Kingom, Its The British Empire, France owned part of canada, but Canada was still under the ruling of the British Empire.

France owned lower Canada, Britain owned upper Canada. Lower Canada wasn't under british ruling until the battle in 17(something?) when the brits took it over from the french. Though it remained french, and even when the brits took over lower Canada it was still 90% french. You can guess why.. the brits were on a mission to assimilate the french, but they never did. Largley due to the American War of independence taking place.

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The Raoman empire lasted over 1000 years.From 500bc(If I remember correctly) all the way through to 500ad.but that was western europe

It was Almost of all Europe, including the North tip of Africa and the westernmost part of Asia.. as well as half the Island of Britain. (At it's peak of power)

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Yeah The Brithish empire was huge.But Could've been bigger.But it goes to show.We may be a small nation but we are one damn powerfull force

Yeah, don't forget all they had was the 13 colonies of N.A and lost their dependence.

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influence Spain had in South America, Central America, wow
I agree.. I don't even have to look up the fact that Spanish is one of the top 3 birth tongues in the world, (only behind Chinese and Arabic.. and only because China and the middle east have a big population) but there was a mistake made by the Spaniards of the time.. very similiar to what the French did.

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Even the French had more land than the English.

I don't know about the rest of the world.. but In North America France had alot more land than Brit. to make some of you understand how much France occupied.. from eastern canada stretching all the way to the american midwest, then down all the way to the missisipi states. And the only reason they didn't go into Florida and California? the Spanish were there.

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French did'nt own more land than the British, they owned 40%, maybe less, of Canada, thats why some Canadians think there French.

:o_O: Canadians think they're French? Canadians HATE frenchies LOL.. owning 40% of Canada back then meant alot.. Canada is a huge country in case you didn't know, the whole wasn't even discovered by the French or Brits during that time.

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Romans ruled for a long period of time, but that is because they were uncontested for a long period of time. Spaniards had a lot of competition to go up against.

yeah.. i think the only empire that rivaled Rome was in another continent( far away), was smaller than rome.. and eventually lost to Rome.
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the queen's an idiot nowadays.. "kings/queen" mean jack*****.. there hasnt been a king in years and no1 cares loll..

Me, I say the Spanish Empire. It's peak was at a time of many powerhouses. At it's peak it had almost all of the Americas. Over 80% i'd say.. As well as enemies it had european allies in Italy and Switserland, something not many powers believed in having. I never read into this, but I wouldn't be suprised if they had peace with Portugal.. But there biggest mistake was conquering all that land in little time. They wouldn't have enough men to occupy ALL of that land, and that led to their downfall. The Americans took over their land while other parts of it took over their own independence.. Or else today Spain would still control the world.

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you forgot to add the mongol empire, which is a massive empire :huh:

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Spain took over practically all of South America, Central America, and parts of United States. They just took over. Even the French had more land than the English.


no, the british empire in it's heyday covered about a quarter of the earth's land (14.2 million square miles) more than both than the french empire, and i'm not sure how much the spanish conquered, you'll have to fill me in, but how much an empire conquered isn't a measure on how great an empire is, btw, it's not the english empire, it's the "British"


the following quote concerns the amount the british empire held
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Yeah, don't forget all they had was the 13 colonies of N.A and lost their dependence.


By 1921, the British Empire held sway over a population of about 458 million people, approximately one-quarter of the world's population. It covered about 36.6 million km (14.2 million square miles),

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Anyways i say Britan had the best Empire, they even rule other contries today like Austrilia, Canada,

.. :o_O:.. Canada is an independant country with it's own Prime Minister and laws

So is Australia. Kevin Rudd's the man.

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Anyways i say Britan had the best Empire, they even rule other contries today like Austrilia, Canada,


the Canada Act in 1982 severed the vestiges of legal dependence on the British parliament.

Australia gained independence January 01, in 1901

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By 1921, the British Empire held sway over a population of about 458 million people, approximately one-quarter of the world's population. It covered about 36.6 million km (14.2 million square miles),

I know.. but i was talking about just America.. reread my post lol

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no, the british empire in it's heyday covered about a quarter of the earth's land (14.2 million square miles) more than both the spanish empire, and more than the french empire, and it's not the english empire, it's the "British"

you say their heyday was in 1921.. technology in 1921 was much better than it was in the 1700's.. a time when Spain had power and controlled almost all of the Americas and then some.

if you think by 1921.. Canada was still part of the British empire.. that's wrong.
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I know.. but i was talking about just America.. reread my post lol


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you say their heyday was in 1921.. technology in 1921 was much better than it was in the 1700's.. a time when Spain had power and controlled almost all of the Americas and then some.

if you think by 1921.. Canada was still part of the British empire.. that's wrong.


well there's no set date, many empires have been the biggest/strongest at one point, which is why if you go to a certain date, then a particular empire was the strongest, then a century later it could be a different empire, buit i was going for every empire at it's heyday
etc spanish biggest 16th century onwards, but began declining in the mid 1700s

where as in the early 1900s the British empire was the strongest empire

and in the 1200s, the mongolian empire, but it's hard to compare empires from different timelines,

as the mongolian empire held 22% of the earth area's, close to the british empire, but held sway over a considerable less amount of the world's population , but there was a smaller population back then
things like that make it hard to compare empires

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true, but the spanish armada when it attacked England, had 130 ships,
which truly is massive

problem was though, most of the fleet were converted merchant ships,better suited to carrying cargo than engaging in warfare at sea. They were broad and heavy, and could not maneuver quickly under sail.

The armada also had 30, 943 men, another staggering amount, but the design of most of the english ships to the spanish ones were superior, which resulted in a victory for the english, also, the leader of the english navy at the time, sir Francis Drake, was more knowleadgable about sea warfare, than the leader of the spanish fleet, the duke of median sodina, who was a aproven soldier and tactician but had no background in sea warfare, and requested to be dismissed from the spanish invasion
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