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Stem Cell Research; Should it be allowed?
Tweet Topic Started: Aug 28 2006, 12:12 AM (1,432 Views)
Epsilonite	Sep 13 2006, 11:38 PM Post #16
Title Pending Posts: 362 Group: Member Member #1,665 Joined: August 27, 2006	Look at it this way: God (assuming you're Christian) only created only two beings: Adam and Eve. Basically, this would mean that all humans spirits are actually parts of theirs, meaning that clones also have spirits. Or you can say that only Adam and Eve have spirits and that every other human has no spirit, therefore, that argument is invalid. Besides, why would anyone want a clone of themselves (if it was possible), since that would spawn some serious issues, such as identity theft?



Kid_Buu	Sep 14 2006, 12:00 AM Post #17
KID BUU Posts: 1,441 Group: Member Member #1,316 Joined: April 10, 2006	Quote: Look at it this way: God (assuming you're Christian) only created only two beings: Adam and Eve. Basically, this would mean that all humans spirits are actually parts of theirs, meaning that clones also have spirits. Or you can say that only Adam and Eve have spirits and that every other human has no spirit, therefore, that argument is invalid. Besides, why would anyone want a clone of themselves (if it was possible), since that would spawn some serious issues, such as identity theft? Ok yes I am christian. The argument isn't invalid because everyone has been born naturally not cloned. Clones are scientifically produced and then implanted. That is not natual. To answer your question on why some1 would want to clone themselves is that they would think that they would be able to live forever by teaching thier clone everything they know and let them take over what they have been doing so that would make them programed robats sort of speak.



Epsilonite	Sep 14 2006, 12:16 AM Post #18
Title Pending Posts: 362 Group: Member Member #1,665 Joined: August 27, 2006	The method may not be natural, but that doesn't mean that the clone will be a soulless piece of cells that can't act on its own. After all, it IS a human being. If you were a clone, would you want people to consider you as a soulless, inferior human incapable of living on its own? You and your clone are not the same entity. Making clones of yourself won't make you immortal, as when your actual self dies, you will NOT become your clone. The day that happens is the day after all humans become extinct.



Kid_Buu	Sep 14 2006, 12:37 AM Post #19
KID BUU Posts: 1,441 Group: Member Member #1,316 Joined: April 10, 2006	Oh well "sigh" I still have my opinions hahaha. I won't be argueing anymore about this now time to find ssometin else lol. It's been fun :).



Pookie	Oct 25 2006, 04:24 PM Post #20
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	For all of you who said no. I want you to watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlER2dj4YyQ The reason why a lot of people say no is because they don't understand the process of stem cell research. No it does not involve cloning and no it does not include harming the Fetus. They just take a few cells from the fetus.. THAT IS IT. Now people always say no to things that can help save millions of lives, until something happens to their family members or to them (God Forbid that never happens.) If there weren't people who didn't want to help, there would have been no cures for tubercolosis, smallpox. etc. I think you have to understand something fully before you pass judgement on it. That is what a lot of people do, they misenterpret and then they make an opinion that is based on false facts.



ssj3Chahta	Oct 31 2006, 10:53 PM Post #21
Posts: 203 Group: Member Member #1,846 Joined: October 27, 2006	Are you kiding me we allready have enuf people on this earth to start cloneing more Humens Humens are a Virus apon the earth.we will consume it then possibuly if we are capabul move on to the next planet and start over. as for using stem cell resersh to help medicul science i think this is also a bad idea because this will help more people live longer and help people who where saspose to die live, and this is rong not because im a christian, im not a Christion at all i dont belive in religion one bit and dont belive in god. i belive you are your own saviour and your own personal god and thats how i live my life im my own god, God was Created by a Humen mind in very bad times. humens need somthing to hold on to thus Religion is Created. and later on Christianity. so if people live their is more people on earth we are to crouded we are consuming the earth it cant sastain this much humens at once we need to stop at once.
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Epsilonite	Nov 1 2006, 12:12 AM Post #22
Title Pending Posts: 362 Group: Member Member #1,665 Joined: August 27, 2006	ssj3Chahta Oct 31 2006, 03:53 PM Are you kiding me we allready have enuf people on this earth to start cloneing more Humens Humens are a Virus apon the earth.we will consume it then possibuly if we are capabul move on to the next planet and start over. as for using stem cell resersh to help medicul science i think this is also a bad idea because this will help more people live longer and help people who where saspose to die live, and this is rong not because im a christian, im not a Christion at all i dont belive in religion one bit and dont belive in god. i belive you are your own saviour and your own personal god and thats how i live my life im my own god, God was Created by a Humen mind in very bad times. humens need somthing to hold on to thus Religion is Created. and later on Christianity. so if people live their is more people on earth we are to crouded we are consuming the earth it cant sastain this much humens at once we need to stop at once. My question: Epsilonite Sep 9 2006, 03:18 PM So yoy are saying you don't support stem cell research because people will live longer and possibly, in some twisted way, reach cloning (which is impossible, since experiences are always UNIQUE)? Reasons why cloning is impossible: Epsilonite Sep 13 2006, 04:03 PM Cloning humans completely is impossible. As I have stated previously, it is because human experiences are unique. Imagine if somebody made a clone of you that was born the exact same day as you were, but was raised by a different family. You and your clone wouldn't have the same personality (most likely) because EVERYTHING you learn in infancy and early childhood is based on EVERYTHING you experience. For example, if you were raised by caring parents that spoiled you in every possible way, you would grow up to be a spoiled brat, taking things for granted as the popular kid in high school. Meanwhile, your clone was raised by a single, abusive parent, being punished just because he exists. He would grow up into a world of self-loathing, depression and anxiety, possibly becoming a criminal that was as abusive as his parent. As you can see, cloning human experiences is impossible, even if you were to simulate the environment the real person grew in, as even small things as having different friends at school will be the difference between a clone and the real person. The past is what makes who you are today. My response to your speech about: ssj3Chahta Oct 31 2006, 03:53 PM as for using stem cell resersh to help medicul science i think this is also a bad idea because this will help more people live longer and help people who where saspose to die live, Think about this: If there weren't nice people in the world who find cures, vaccines, and medicine for diseases for you and me, most of us would probably never have been born or dead right now, while the rest of us would probably wonder who would survive the next Influenza epidemic. Finally, read these wise words: Hotprchichi1769 Oct 25 2006, 09:24 AM If there weren't people who didn't want to help, there would have been no cures for tubercolosis, smallpox. etc. I think you have to understand something fully before you pass judgement on it. That is what a lot of people do, they misenterpret and then they make an opinion that is based on false facts.



ssj3Chahta	Nov 1 2006, 03:53 AM Post #23
Posts: 203 Group: Member Member #1,846 Joined: October 27, 2006	Quote: Think about this: If there weren't nice people in the world who find cures, vaccines, and medicine for diseases for you and me, most of us would probably never have been born or dead right now, while the rest of us would probably wonder who would survive the next Influenza epidemic. Exactly the next influenza epidemic will come and take down the population once agian stoping us from mass perducing, mass perducing makes a need for goverment to organize and wach us wich makes jobs and citys and docters who make cuers for diseases and so we can mass perduce more, Thus now adays today we Evolve into Citys and goverment droning us and controling us do you know how much weeker we are as a race conpaired to 1000 years ago. you have to think outside the normal american thoughts, of we can be here for ever evrything ends and this looks like the very begining of the Fall Of Rome all over agian. altho Rome held up alot longer then us so far.. stem cell reserch is just another somthing to help people live longer... this is my personal opinon but to each his own. i wouldent even be suprized if they OKd it . but i dont care eather way if they wanna do it their gunna do it..
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Pookie	Nov 1 2006, 02:45 PM Post #24
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	ssj3Chahta Oct 31 2006, 05:53 PM Are you kiding me we allready have enuf people on this earth to start cloneing more Humens Humens are a Virus apon the earth.we will consume it then possibuly if we are capabul move on to the next planet and start over. as for using stem cell resersh to help medicul science i think this is also a bad idea because this will help more people live longer and help people who where saspose to die live, and this is rong not because im a christian, im not a Christion at all i dont belive in religion one bit and dont belive in god. i belive you are your own saviour and your own personal god and thats how i live my life im my own god, God was Created by a Humen mind in very bad times. humens need somthing to hold on to thus Religion is Created. and later on Christianity. so if people live their is more people on earth we are to crouded we are consuming the earth it cant sastain this much humens at once we need to stop at once. Once again. Stem Cell research does not include cloning. As far as everything else you said...I don't know where you pulled it out from. We aren't moving to a different planet. We are here, now, we live for today, not for tomorrow. We work with what we have. I am a religous person and I'm Catholic, but don't you believe that God created that method so nice people could have something to hope for and live for? God creates everything. So who is to say he didn't create Stem Cell research or who is to say he didn't create other vaccines that we have in this world. Who is to say he didn't give the gift of intelligence or discovery to that person, so that other people could be saved. God loves all his creations, all his children. As far as I'm concerned we have an epidemic. An HIV epidemic. Now if you knew stem cell research could possibly cure an epidemic that is wiping out a person everytime you breathe. You wouldn't want a cure to be found? The bottom line is, it gives people hope. Maybe they won't find a cure for illnesses like paralysis, parkinson's disease, cancer, or alzheimers, but at least they attempt to. Stem Cell Research, needs to be fully understood before passing judgement on it. If it can find a cures for incurable diseases now..then why not?



Sam	Nov 6 2006, 11:51 PM Post #25
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	I have a friend who has a cancer brain tumor heart attacks blind deaf with lukemia at 27 years old. Go stem cell research.
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Pookie	Nov 7 2006, 12:21 AM Post #26
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	I hope that isn't a joke because it really isn't funny.



* Tyro	Nov 7 2006, 12:54 AM Post #27
Posts: 1,549 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,367 Joined: April 29, 2006	HellFire_Kakashi Nov 6 2006, 07:51 PM I have a friend who has a cancer brain tumor heart attacks blind deaf with lukemia at 27 years old. Go stem cell research. Are all of those things decribing the cancer?
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