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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 28 2006, 12:12 AM (1,431 Views) | |
| Epsilonite | Aug 28 2006, 12:12 AM Post #1 |
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Should Stem Cell Research be allowed? A recent breakthrough in stem cell research has occurred that involves taking a cell from the early stages of a human embryo, which in turn , allows the newly extracted stem cell to continue to multiply while allowing the embryo to continue with its development. However, the Vatican claims that: 1) the embryo will have suffered enough from losing one cell that it will die/grow prematurely, and 2) the extracted stem cell will theoretically develop into another human embryo, therefore, every cell should be considered human embryos (Unfortunately, that would mean that every cell in the embryo could potentially develop into millions of different human beings, so argument 2 is highly criticized). Doesn't anyone have an opinion on this? |
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| Pookie | Sep 2 2006, 02:19 AM Post #2 |
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I think that Stem Cell research will have many breakthroughs if it was fully developed. You could probably find a cure for cancer, have people who are paralized walk again, transplant new lungs, hearts, etc. I mean stem cell research would save many lives, however, I think that there should be limits on where they want to expand this. If it means they are going to be killing or destroying millions of fetus's for selfish reasons then I don't think they should go on with Stem Cell research. If they find a way to preserve the fetus and are able to come with miracle breakthroughs, then I'm all for it. |
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| Silver Raditz | Sep 2 2006, 04:53 AM Post #3 |
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There are actactual ways to get stem cells without involveing an embyro these are less effictive and harder to do but I just wanted that clear 
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| Pookie | Sep 3 2006, 07:16 PM Post #4 |
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Well then they should perform those. They may be harder, but I doubt there would be such a big debate about it as there is now. People find some way to complain about something. No matter what way you try to do stem cell research, there will always be one complainer about how it is being performed. |
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| Silver Raditz | Sep 3 2006, 11:53 PM Post #5 |
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Yeah the only problem is that they have the same taboo even if they don't involve the same process, never under-estimate the stupity of people |
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| ssjmkm | Sep 4 2006, 03:20 AM Post #6 |
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I remember hearing something how the creator of the stem cell research did all these tests and he forged the results to make it seemed like there was progress when in reality there wasn't any at all. I dont' understand why people are so freaking anal about using embroys. If the adult ones are better to use then use those. Why waste an embroy or as most view it as a human life when there is a much better way. If there is indeed no progress, move on. People just find excuses to kill things anymore. Its disgusting. |
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| Epsilonite | Sep 4 2006, 10:39 PM Post #7 |
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Where did you get that kind of info? Adult stem cells aren't as versatile as stem cells from embryos.That means they are less likely to transform into the needed cells, making them quite useless and slow in their research. Why would somebody make up a story about medical breakthroughs that can save MILLIONS OF LIVES? There is progress. Have you read the news last week? Reread this part:
Stem cells has the potential to cure many illnesses that exist, such as neurodegenerative and cardiovascular diseases (both of which can be extremely dangerous and fatal). The purpose of stem cell research is to figure out how to harness the stem cell's ability to transform into the need cells. Hypothetically speaking, if you were terminally ill and stem cells were the only way to cure your illness, would you take it or die? |
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| ssjmkm | Sep 7 2006, 01:43 AM Post #8 |
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I didn't research properally. What i was talking about was this. Hwang Woo-Suk claims to have created several human embryonic stem cell lines from unfertilised human oocytes. The lines are later shown to be fabricated
If they had a cure for it and they could do it, then probably. But it doesn't mean its right though. |
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| Kid_Buu | Sep 9 2006, 08:08 PM Post #9 |
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I don't like it because ppl are soon going to want to clone humans if they haven't thought up that idea alrdy. They just want to play god and that is wrong. No one is going to live forever and they may think if not think that cloneing means they can live forever but that is immpossible and wrong to think so. People are meant to live and die as the circle of life shows. |
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| Epsilonite | Sep 9 2006, 10:18 PM Post #10 |
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So yoy are saying you don't support stem cell research because people will live longer and possibly, in some twisted way, reach cloning (which is impossible, since experiences are always UNIQUE)? |
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| Kid_Buu | Sep 13 2006, 05:17 AM Post #11 |
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No I disagree with it because ppl are twisted aenough to try to clone and I defenitly will try to do that like they did with the sheep. |
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| Epsilonite | Sep 13 2006, 07:58 AM Post #12 |
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Do you mean cloning as in cloning human organs for medical purposes or creating genetically identical humans? And if you say the latter, I can assure that it is impossible to clone human experiences, meaning that if somebody made a clone of you, that second you will not have the same experiences than you, and may even have a completely different personality based on the enviornment that person grew in. |
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| Kid_Buu | Sep 13 2006, 02:34 PM Post #13 |
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Yes I meant cloneig a human bieng completly. and yes I know it is immpossible but if they keep researching it beyond what they are doing they will be able to find a way to clone humans. I honestly don't mind them saveing lives but if I am not mistaken they have talked about human cloneing which in my book is wrong. I am all for saveing lives though so don't get me wrong on that issue there. I have complicated feelings that is even hard for me to express about this topic so don't even try to get me to explain plz. |
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| Epsilonite | Sep 13 2006, 11:03 PM Post #14 |
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The point of a discussion is to explain your beliefs and opinions, no matter how hard it is to do so. Cloning humans completely is impossible. As I have stated previously, it is because human experiences are unique. Imagine if somebody made a clone of you that was born the exact same day as you were, but was raised by a different family. You and your clone wouldn't have the same personality (most likely) because EVERYTHING you learn in infancy and early childhood is based on EVERYTHING you experience. For example, if you were raised by caring parents that spoiled you in every possible way, you would grow up to be a spoiled brat, taking things for granted as the popular kid in high school. Meanwhile, your clone was raised by a single, abusive parent, being punished just because he exists. He would grow up into a world of self-loathing, depression and anxiety, possibly becoming a criminal that was as abusive as his parent. As you can see, cloning human experiences is impossible, even if you were to simulate the environment the real person grew in, as even small things as having different friends at school will be the difference between a clone and the real person. The past is what makes who you are today. |
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| Kid_Buu | Sep 13 2006, 11:11 PM Post #15 |
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I never said they could clone a human persanality. I know thats immpossible (by the way I was not popular and I was fricken made fun of in school :). I also know u never said I was popular hahaha. Just wanted to state it lol.). The humen spirit also can't be cloned (even though it is the same as the personality) and since that can't be done the body will basically be a empty shell. What I was getting at is the human race will try to clone humans if not alrdy tried (I know they can't clone the spirit) and also like I said before the body would be without a spirit basically becasue the spirit is given (in my opinion) by god and no human could give that spirit to a human clone. It would be a empty shell like i said before probably for the 3rd time and it would just be a waste of resources. |
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