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Disciplining Children; To Spank or not to Spank
Topic Started: Jun 24 2006, 05:15 PM (2,883 Views)
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We're not hitting we're spanking. Hitting would be to hit your child (most likely on the upper body. Chest, face...etc.) for no reason but because you want to.

Spanking is stricking your child's buttocks just hard enough for then to feel enough pain to know what they did was wrong.

And you seem to be blaming it all on the parent for why the kid is bad. There is a line where the child knows what is right and wrong. Sometimes he chooses to do bad things because he wants to do them even though his parents told him not to.
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No the only way a kid will be a brat is if a parent makes them one. If a parent talks to them and helps them understand life and they still act like a brat yeah its okay to hit them. My parents are great and I've learned a lot for them and I've been hit before. not severely, but enough to set me straight.
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Speaking from experience, I was spanked till I was about 6, then I started to fight back in self defense with anything I could get my hands on, and it worked. But then my grandma tried just talking to me, and only then did I start behaving in school. Sure I still got into fights almost everyday but it was for self defense, not to harm people. And still to this day I have that inner hatred towards my grandma for hitting me when I was a child because it's just so god d@mn wrong.

Hitting doesn't do *****, I know because I was one of those stubborn brats. But when talking came intstead of the spanking, I became a better kid.
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Well, coming from my personal experience, being spanked actually helped me. It tought me to fear and think about my actions of being bad. It did keep me out of some trouble in my life, and I'm glad I was spanked.

Shinobi13, how exactly is it so wrong and how does it not do anything?

Yes, your right. Hitting doesn't do anything, but spanking for the cause of punishment does. It teaches the child right from wrong. In mine and other's cases anyway.

And do you really deep down hate your grandma for trying to teach you right from wrong by spanking you?
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Spanking is for parents who have quit trying to comminicate with their children, a last resort if you will. I hate quiters, I really do. So yes, deep down inside me, there is alittle bit of hostility towards her for her actions. We're not freggin cavemen, any sort of violence should only be used for self defense. Yes, even spanking, though I doubt anyone spanks while defending themselves.

And don't think I'd ever hit my grandma back, even though I am a Satanist and I do think Vengeance is more proper than turning the other cheek, but she's family, and I would only hurt a family member if they went over the line
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Shinobi13
Jun 29 2006, 08:54 PM
Speaking from experience, I was spanked till I was about 6, then I started to fight back in self defense with anything I could get my hands on, and it worked. But then my grandma tried just talking to me, and only then did I start behaving in school. Sure I still got into fights almost everyday but it was for self defense, not to harm people. And still to this day I have that inner hatred towards my grandma for hitting me when I was a child because it's just so god d@mn wrong.

Hitting doesn't do *****, I know because I was one of those stubborn brats. But when talking came intstead of the spanking, I became a better kid.

Just to tell you I'm not suprised you were one of those brats. And you haven't become a better kid, you've become an asshole. Hitting just doesn't work on some bad eggs, like you.
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Lol, I'm sorry I'm not a bitch in life, and just bend over for anyone. I've been to military school, junior. That's as hard life as you can get, yes, even worse than jail. But you know what? I still stood my ground, they couldn't crack me. But from the sounds of it, you're easily cracked by authority, that makes me laugh cuz you talk like you're some hardass or something. Just for the record, I was expelled from military school within 3 months due to them not being able to break me and my stubborn spirit.

And to clarify one last thing, I'm a jackass, not an asshole, there is a diff.

ON TOPIC!

Don't spank your kids!
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Shinobi13
Jun 29 2006, 11:16 PM
Lol, I'm sorry I'm not a bitch in life, and just bend over for anyone. I've been to military school, junior. That's as hard life as you can get, yes, even worse than jail. But you know what? I still stood my ground, they couldn't crack me. But from the sounds of it, you're easily cracked by authority, that makes me laugh cuz you talk like you're some hardass or something. Just for the record, I was expelled from military school within 3 months due to them not being able to break me and my stubborn spirit.

And to clarify one last thing, I'm a jackass, not an asshole, there is a diff.

ON TOPIC!

Don't spank your kids!

I've been to boot camp for 2 months in one summer and Ive been to Juvenile for 2 weeks because of a fight. I hate authority but I listen to them because Im not an adult. I am a hardass, bring your metal ***** to new york and do something about it. ^_^
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If I didn;t hate Yankeeville so much, I would. But as a Canadian, I hate the U.S. It pisses me off that alot of good metal bands come from there, but I still would never want to leave Canada to downgrade my living conditions for any amount of time.

Only 2 places I would visit outside of Canada, Germany and Norway!
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Pssh. i love so many canadian athletes... steve nash, georges st.pierre... you dont see me disrespecting canada.
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That's cuz we're Canada. The nicest country on the planet. The states however, alot of countries hate you guys. The states don;t even have healthcare, you suck, lol
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Just to tell you I'm not suprised you were one of those brats. And you haven't become a better kid, you've become an asshole. Hitting just doesn't work on some bad eggs, like you.

First, that is rude. All that does is starts off-topic conversations and leads to a lot of spam. Also, the cussing was a bit over the top. Insults are not needed in a debate topic, or any topic for that matter. Just because you don't like his opinions, doesn't mean you have the right to make fun of them.
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Just for the record, I was expelled from military school within 3 months due to them not being able to break me and my stubborn spirit.

I don't believe "stubborn spirit" is the right word for that. Maybe, rule-breaker?

Edit: Back on topic: Spanking teaches your kid right from wrong.

Edit again: And don't make fun of the U.S.A. We're the greatest place on Earth.
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Spanking kids can lead to hostility, like it did for me.

About that rule breaker comment, itwas like that, until they put me solitary confinement or whatever it's called. They kept me in a room for days, and at 9AM, noon, and 6 PM, I kept reminded them that by law, they have to feed me then. Eventually they got so p!ssed they took my watch, so I sat and starved, and played music inside my head over and over, until they gave up and knew they couldn't break me, and so I was expelled. The look on my grandma's face was PRICELES!!
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what would happen to Bertuzzi if the Moore incident happend in Colorado could the FBI have spanked him :o
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Shinobi13
Jun 26 2006, 06:17 PM
I don't think spanking should be allowed.

As the 8th Satanic Rule of the Earth states
"Do not harm little children."

I was spanked until I was 5, then I punched my grandma in the face when she tried to. Though because of that, I've grown up to be a strong person who stands their ground under any circumstances.

When I have a kid(s) I'll find a way to teach them self pride in a different way than the way I learned myself.

If you hit a small child for any reason, I should come to your door and hit you!

I know how it is i bit my mother in the hand but it was cause of a reflex and she kinda holds that against me, OD hitting shouldnt be allowed one time i was going to get hit with an object and pushed my mother down hard that she fell on a glass table, parents should understand if you hit a child that cant take it expect a hit rightback now teach that chikd the meaning of right and wrong with alitlle spanking but not Od and we're good but then again the child is most likely do the same thing all over again which defeats the purpose.
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