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Dragonball Z Anime Power levels NOTE: Fighting levels. Power of moves not included So, these are my revised power levels. I’m open to criticism, however, there are many storm trooper dressed be-wedded cyber nerds who will absolutely deny the PL’s based on anime, as they’re hardcore manga fans. Well this revision is not based on the manga, so you can defend “Akira’s honour” elsewhere. A DBZ fan is a DBZ fan no matter anime or manga, right? Another point to make is that I am not fond of incredibly high PL’s reaching into the billions, so I’ve kept them as low as possible. Regarding the movies; I’ve just done them for pure sake, they’re impossible. I know these two issues will generate mass flaming from you arrogant types. I have altered the multipliers for the Oozaru and Kaioken techniques. Stated multipliers and certain stated PL's should not be cast in stone, in my opinion. "It will increase your power tenfold"..."it will double your power"... both are statements that are mightily common and can easily be meant as a deliberate exaggeration, in order to emphasize a power boost, than to rather state its exact multiplication. Movie special – Bardock, Father of Goku Bardock: 7,000 Bardock (Oozaru): 28,000 Bardock (enraged): 12,000 Tora: 4,500 Tora (Oozaru): 18,000 Borgos: 3,800 Borgos (Oozaru): 15,200 Panbukin: 3,500 Panbukin (Oozaru): 14,000 Fasha: 3,000 Fasha (Oozaru): 12,000 Tooro (the last Kanassan): 2,800 Frieza’s elites (general estimation): 5,000 Dodoria: 20,000 Kid Vegeta: 10,000 King Vegeta: 9,800 Summary In my opinion Bardock in the Oozaru form would have to be more powerful than Frieza’s best (Zarbon and Dodoria) to be considered a threat. Oozaru multiplies PL by 4. Stated by Prince Vegeta, he surpassed his father’s PL when he was still a child. Of course King Vegeta was killed in this drama, thus Kid Vegeta has a higher PL than King Vegeta. A lot of people rate these saiyan warriors a lot weaker than above, due to the fact that they’re “low class fighters”. However, it was stated that the Saiyans were quickly becoming the strongest fighters under Freiza’s command. They may have been low levels, but judging by the talk of their achievements, they’d grown in power and were ready for a sort of promotion. Which is funny, because one of Dodoria’s men jokingly tells Tora to consider his death a promotion. As for Bardock personally, he is the father of Goku and I assume little Gohan gets his rage from his granddad. Bardock dominates four elites, and then survives a huge blast from Dodoria. Then in an injured state he ploughs through a huge cluster of Frieza’s men. So I think in the enraged state he is more powerful than King Vegeta himself. Movie 01 – The Dead Zone Piccolo: 320 Piccolo (w/o weighted clothing): 400 Goku: 330 Goku (w/o weighted clothing): 410 Krillen: 206 Gohan (enraged): 710 Garlic Jr: 600 Ginger: 250 Sanjo: 240 Nikki: 220 Summary Garlic Jr was more powerful than Goku and Piccolo but when they teamed up they defeated him easily. Ginger appeared to be the leader of the henchmen and Sanjo fought Piccolo one on one. I had to put Nikki as the weakest because he comes across as abit of a poofter. Also, Nikki was collaterally destroyed by a kamehameha on Ginger, which could suggest that he is weak. Saiyan Saga Arrival of Radditz Radditz: 1,200 Piccolo: 320 Piccolo (w/o weighted clothing): 400 Goku: 330 Goku (w/o weighted clothing): 410 Gohan: 710 Gohan (enraged burst): 1,370 Summary Piccolo PL’s both stated. Goku PL stated, without weighted clothing estimated on Piccolo’s rise. Gohan PL’s both stated. Simulated Saiyan battle Elder Saiyan Warrior: 2,800 Youthful Saiyan Warrior: 3,000 Tien: 395 Yamcha: 375 Choustu: 360 Krillen: 380 Summary Z fighters combined PL stated at 1,510. Their training prior at Kami’s lookout brought them close to the PL’s of Goku and Piccolo. Saiyans stated to be both powerful Saiyans, but half as powerful as Nappa and Vegeta, so I based this comment comparing to Nappa. Movie 02 – The World’s Strongest Summary This movie is not worth the effort. Battle with Nappa Saibamen: 1,200 Tien: 2,000 Yamcha: 1, 550 Krillen: 1,800 Piccolo: 2,500 Choustu: 1,050 Gohan: 1,000 Gohan (enraged burst): 3,000 Nappa: 6,000 Nappa (fully charged): 9,000 Goku: 12,000 Goku (kaioken): 15,000 Summary Saibamen stated PL’s at 1,200 each, equal to Radditz. Vegeta’s scouter read six PL’s above 1,000, i.e. the six Z fighters. Gohan enraged stated. Nobody came close to hurting Nappa, until Goku arrived. He was also the commander of the Saiyan Army, so fully charged he is one of the strongest (minor) saiyans in DBZ. Battle with Vegeta Vegeta: 18,000 Vegeta (Oozaru): 64,000 Goku: 12,000 Goku (kaioken): 15,000 Goku (kaioken x 2): 18,000 Goku (kaioken x 3): 21,000 Goku (kaioken x 4): 24,000 Gohan: 3,000 Gohan (Oozaru): 12,000 Summary Kaioken and Oozaru are both hazy multipliers, in my opinion more sensible equations would be: (Kaioken raises power level by 1/4) (Oozaru multiplies power level by 4) Movie 03 – Tree of Might This movie does not at all fit into the DBZ timeline and the two stated PL’s in it seem even more alien. Due to the fact that I wish to record suitable PL’s for every DBZ movie, I shall take PL’s from the closest and most fitting saga to estimate the PL’s for the movies. Movies plural as this is the case with many DBZ movies. Piccolo: 2,500 Krillen: 1,800 Yamcha: 1,550 Tien: 2,000 Chousu: 1,050 Gohan: 3,000 Almond: 2,150 Raisin: 1,800 Rakasei: 1,800 Daizu: 2,350 Kakao (Android): 2,350 Gohan (Oozaru): 12,000 Goku: 12,000 Goku (kaioken): 15,000 Goku (kaioken x 2): 18,000 Goku (kaioken x 10): 42,000 Goku (Spirit energy): 100,000+? Turles: 16,000 Turles (Tree of Might fruit): 48,000 Summary The Z fighters were all defeated, but Krillen and Tien were both stated to have been pretty tough. Gohan kicked some ***** until Turles got a hold of him, and even in Oozaru, Turles was superior to Gohan. After eating the fruit, Goku was no match for Turles, and his kaoiken x 10 didn’t last long. The spirit energy got the job done easily though. Again, despite the guideline PL’s mentioned, anything stated in a DBZ movie is to be taken with less than a pinch of salt. These PL’s keep them down to a more realistic Saiyan level. Movie 04 – Lord Slug Lord Slug: 20,000 Super Namek Lord Slug: 40,000 Angira: 2,300 Dorodabo: 1,800 Medametcha: 1,800 Gohan: 1,000 Goku: 12,000 Goku (kaioken): 15,000 Goku (Super Saiyan instinct): 30,000 Piccolo: 2,500 Krillen: 1,800 Summary To mention, it’s by far the worst DBZ movie. Gohan got pasted by Medamatcha, who was relatively weak. It was obvious that Angira was the most powerful of the henchmen. Goku turning semi super saiyan is beyond me but I’ll assume it was not as powerful as the Super Namek, on account of him powering down after the growth of Lord Slug. Namek Saga The Dragonball Race Vegeta: 24,000 Vegeta (rejuvenated): 30,000 Cui: 19,500 Frieza’s henchmen (general estimation): 1,500 Gohan: 4,000 Krillen: 3,800 Warrior Nameks (general estimation): 3,000 Dodoria: 20,000 Zarbon: 21,000 Zarbon (transformed): 26,000 Summary First Vegeta PL stated. Cui, Dodoria and Zarbon were all practically stated stronger than Vegeta’s previous 18,000 PL, but were all under his current 24,000 PL. Gohan and Krillen estimated based on gain from last battle, plus training prior arrival. The Ginyu Force Gohan (hidden power): 22,000 Krillen (hidden power): 18,000 Guldo: 10,000 Vegeta: 30,000 Reacoome: 35,000 Burter: 35,000 Jeice: 35,000 Goku: 60,000 Summary Although Guldo’s real strength was his special abilities, they wouldn’t alone earn him a place on the Ginyu Force, above the likes of Vegeta, without atleast a significant PL. Vegeta wasn’t a complete push over for Reacoome and it was due to his extreme toughness that he seemed so unharmed. Jeice and Burter were equal to Reacoome, Jeice having extreme ki blasts and Burter having extreme speed. Captain Ginyu battle Captain Ginyu: 120,000 Ginyu (In Goku’s body): 23,000 > rises Goku (fully charged): 180,000 Gohan (after senzu bean): 28,000 Krillen (after senzu bean): 23,000 Jeice: 35,000 Vegeta (after senzu bean): 200,000 Summary Ginyu and Goku both stated. Ginyu (in Goku’s body) stated. Vegeta power boost: Both Vegeta and Goku’s previous power levels before this stage were close with Vegeta at 30,000PL and Goku at 24,000PL (in kaioken). With all the talk from Vegeta around this time about super saiyans, I’m assuming that these huge boosts are because they are becoming closer to that level. With Vegeta’s previous PL being higher than Goku’s and the fact that he slapped the faces off both Goku and Ginyu (I know, they were injured) and also the fact that he held his own against Frieza, that my concluded opinion is a 200,000PL. Frieza Saga Frieza Transformations Nail: 35,000 Vegeta (after rest): 230,000 Vegeta (healed by Dende): 1,800,000 Krillen: 26,000 Gohan: 32,000 Gohan (enraged burst): 750,000 Gohan (2nd enraged burst): 1,300,000 Piccolo: 65,000 Piccolo (merged with Nail): 1,000,000 Frieza: 250,000 Frieza (2nd form): 1,000,000 Frieza (3rd form): 1,500,000 Frieza (final form): 3,000,000 Summary After resting and changing into more battle efficient clothing, I feel that Vegeta, Gohan and Krillen’s PL’s had all risen. It is said that Frieza 1st form was at 530,000, I say not. This form suppressed his PL greatly. It would also be strange for Vegeta being able to match that power. Gohan’s first enraged burst was enough to shake Frieza, but not enough to cause major damage. Piccolo – I estimated Piccolo’s PL based on him being the strongest of the dead Z fighters and also linked it to the fusion with Nail. Piccolo + Nail = 100,000 then x 10. He was matched to Frieza 2nd form. Again, Gohan’s 2nd enraged burst was enough to shake Frieza. It was apparent that Vegeta was more powerful than the others after being healed due to the fact that only he could follow Frieza’s movements. Goku Vs Frieza Freiza (final form): 3,000,000 Frieza (final form 50%): 5,000,000 Frieza (final form 100%): 10,000,000 Goku (rejuvenated): 2,800,000 Goku (kaioken x 20): 4,000,000 – Rapidly declines SSJ1 Goku: 8,000,000 > (constantly rising) SSJ1 Goku (peaked): 12,000,000 Gohan (3rd enraged burst): 2,500,000 Summary Frieza was slightly superior to Goku at first, but to be on the safe side he powered up to 50% and was then in another league to Goku. As stated before, I calculate kaioken to times by ¼. As Goku was injured and worn I estimated his PL to be down to 1,000,000 and so his kaioken x20 was as above. It was effective, but he had caught Frieza off guard. SSJ1 Goku at first was weaker than Frieza 100%, though gradually during the fight the tables completely turned. Frieza did say he was fighting at 1% of his full power prior to going 50%, however…he said a lot of things and these ridiculous figures reaching the hundred millions for Frieza are just too out of proportion, when considering Gohan and Piccolo’s interventions. It also mocks it up for the rest of the sagas, having PL’s in the billions based on one bragging comment made in the Frieza saga seems stupidly farfetched to me. Battle at King Kai’s Recoome: 35,000 Burter: 35,000 Jeice: 35,000 Guldo: 10,000 Yamcha: 36,000 Tien: 50,000 Choustu: 12,500 Summary Yamcha beat Recoome, Choustu beat Guldo, Tien beat Jeice and Burter. Garlic Jr Saga Krillen: 39,000 Gohan: 32,000 Gohan (unleashed power): 64,000 Gohan (1st enraged burst): 96,000 Gohan (2nd enraged burst): 750,000 Gohan (defeating Garlic Jr): 1,300,000 Piccolo: 1,000,000 Salt: 42,000 Mustard: 45,000 Vinegar: 61,000 Vinegar (Makyo Star power up): 84,000 Spice: 67,500 Spice (Makyo Star power up): 90,000 Garlic Jr: 1,200,000 Summary A very difficult saga to review in terms of PL’s. Gohan and Krillen were at first beaten around by Salt and Mustard, up until Gohan gets pissed off. I had his first rage down as 64,000 estimating his PL had doubled since the Frieza saga. Vinegar and Spice were not afraid of Gohan, and they beat up Krillen and Gohan up until Gohan gets pissed off again and kills them both (with a PL increase of 50%). Vinegar and Spice are then powered up by the Makyo Star and in my opinion theyre both twice as strong as the other two henchmen. Vinegar being doubled that of Salt and Spice being double that of Mustard (being as though he appears to be the leader). Gohan again gets pissed off and kills them both with a single blast each and at this current PL is able to hold his own against Garlic Jr for a short while. Garlic Jr was more powerful than Piccolo, but as Piccolo stated, his increase in power had lowered his speed and so Piccolo was able to beat him around (until his power was drained due to Kami). Gohan’s final increase is when he is able to hold his ground against the Dead Zone and is able to destroy the Makyo Star. Movie Special – History of Trunks Android 18: 16,000,000 Android 17: 16,000,000 Gohan: 7,000,000 SSJ1 Gohan: 16,350,000 Future Trunks: 3,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 11,000,000 Summary In the Future Trunks saga, Trunks stated that the androids from his time were even more powerful than Goku. This pair was made different to the pair in the main story and nothing suggested against them being different in power. SSJ1 Gohan would’ve probably bested them in one on one fights. Although Gohan no doubt received a power increase after the first encounter, he was missing an arm and so recording an armless PL would be pointless, as even with both arms I doubt the fight would’ve turned out different. Future Trunks Saga Cyborg Frieza: 6,500,000 King Cold: 7,000,000 Future Trunks: 4,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 12,000,000 Goku: 5,800,000 SSJ1 Goku: 15,000,000 Summary As a cyborg the scientists claimed Frieza to be stronger than ever before, though it was obvious that he wasn’t in the 100% state. King Cold was stated by Gohan to have greater ki than Freiza. SSJ1 Future Trunks was thought to be as strong as Goku, when he fought Frieza, but Goku came back and matched Trunks’ sword with his finger… Movie 5 – Cooler’s Revenge Goku: 5,800,000 SSJ1 Goku: 15,000,000 Cooler (4th form): 5,500,000 Cooler (5th form): 12,500,000 Piccolo: 1,000,000 Sauza: 150,000 Doore: 40,000 Neizu: 50,000 Summary In the fourth form, Cooler was stated by both fighters to being superior to Frieza (at 50% I presume). His 5th form was little in comparison to SSJ1 Goku, however he was fighting a superior Goku to which Frieza fought, and he wouldn’t have come if he wasn’t confident in succeeding where Frieza failed. Cooler’s elite fighters had to be more powerful than the Ginyu Force considering their leader was more powerful than Freiza and also because there was less in number…and they ain’t as lame. Sauza was pretty tough and would most likely be more powerful than Captain Ginyu was, considering he was the leader of Cooler’s elite. NOTE: From this point on the PL’s of Yamcha, Tien, Krillen and Chousu are not revised as they’re insignificant. Android Saga Dr Gero Android 20: 8,000,000 Android 19: 6,000,000 Android 19 (after absorbing Goku’s ki): 7,500,000 Goku: 7,300,000 SSJ1 Goku: 16,500,000 Vegeta: 8,000,000 SSJ1 Vegeta: 17,000,000 Android 20 (after absorbing Vegeta + Piccolo’s ki): 10,000,000 Piccolo: 12,500,000 Summary I don’t like to class the lesser villains stronger than Frieza. So although it was stated that Android 20 could’ve beaten the sapped Vegeta, I think it was rather precautionary than actual fact. However I took it to the limit of my opinion to stick with the statements. 17 and 18 revived Android 20: 10,000,000 Android 18: 20,000,000 Android 17: 25,000,000 Vegeta: 8,000,000 SSJ1 Vegeta: 17,000,000 Future Trunks: 5,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 13,000,000 Piccolo: 12,500,000 Summary Vegeta held his own against android 18. I very much doubt she was actually “toying with him”. I’d like to give Tien a mention but his PL is too insignificant. His tri beam against Cell was the ***** though. Big up yo’ self, Tien. Movie 07 – Super Android 13 Android 15: 15,000,000 Android 14: 12,000,000 Android 13: 18,000,000 Super Android 13: 45,000,000 Future Trunks: 5,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 13,000,000 Vegeta: 8,000,000 SSJ1 Vegeta: 17,000,000 Goku: 7,800,000 SSJ1 Goku: 18,000,000 SSJ1 Goku (Spirit energy): 100,000,000 +? Piccolo: 25,000,000 Summary Androids 14 and 15 were obviously more powerful than the base saiyans but slightly weaker than the fighters as Super Saiyans. Being as Android 15 was specifically asked to deal with Vegeta upon his arrival, I’d say he was a more powerful model than android 14. It is also apparent that he’s got the charge of the two. 15 is the butch, 14 is the bitch. Android 13 is equal with SSJ1 Goku, who I’ve given a power boost above Vegeta’s, coherent to him healing from the heart disease, as this time is the best fit into the story for the movie. Piccolo made two physical statements of his superior power; One where he threw Android 13 around like a rag doll and the other being him budging Super Android 13, as the others could not. The fusion of Piccolo and Kami did not happen until the Cell Saga, but I didn’t want to stick a DBZ movie in the middle of an important part to the saga. Cell Saga Birth of Cell Piccolo (after merging with Kame): 25,000,000 Cell: 18,000,000 Cell (after absorbing people): 28,000,000 Imperfect Cell (after absorbing Android 17): 40,500,000 Perfect Cell (after absorbing Android 18): 50,500,000 Android 16: 28,000,000 Android 17: 25,000,000 Android 18: 20,000,000 Vegeta (after spirit room): 21,750,000 SSJ1 Vegeta (after spirit room): 44,500,000 Future Trunks (after spirit room): 18,000,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks (after spirit room): 43,000,000 Ultra SSJ1 Future Trunks: 53,000,000 (speed greatly reduced) Summary Piccolo bashes Cell around when he first appears, and he is also wary of Vegeta. I also believe that the adjustments made to these androids as opposed to those of Future Trunks’ timeline, were aimed to make them superior to Cell(or maybe not), it appeared so. Android 16 was equal with Cell in his battle. (After absorbing 17, Cell gains 1/2 of 17’s power level) (After absorbing 18, Cell gains ½ of 18’s power level) Perfect Cell isn’t fighting at max power at this point. He has yet to adapt his full power, which will be the combined total of his, plus the two androids of course. Movie 8 – Brolly Goku: 21,050,000 SSJ1 Goku: 68,500,000 Gohan: 18,500,000 SSJ1 Gohan: 50,000,000 Future Trunks: 22,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 55,500,000 Vegeta: 28,625,000 SSJ1 Vegeta: 58,250,000 Piccolo: 52,500,000 Legendary Super Saiyan Brolly: 100,000,000 Summary As stated above, the movies take place and are offset from the main storyline. Gohan was looking older and he was now a super saiyan, but there was nothing to suggest he had surpassed Goku yet. A fitting PL for Brolly, as nobody could touch him. OVA Special – Lost Movie, Plan to destroy the Saiyans Goku: 21,050,000 SSJ1 Goku: 68,500,000 Gohan: 18,500,000 SSJ1 Gohan: 50,000,000 Future Trunks: 22,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 55,500,000 Vegeta: 28,625,000 SSJ1 Vegeta: 58,250,000 Piccolo: 52,500,000 Hatchyack: 100,000,000 Summary The Frieza, Cooler, Turles and Slug phantoms have PL’s stated in above sagas and movies. This was a weird ***** movie with a freaky soundtrack, which I could only find with French subtitles. Language translation: “It is maybe again stronger than Broly! Nevertheless”… This is courtesy of a googled translator so take it, as you will. He dominated them all equal to how Brolly did, but was destroyed by the power of four of them, where as Brolly was defeated by the power of five of them, although he survived…but seen as this superiority was suggested I’ve record him as Brolly’s equal. Cell Games Perfect Cell: 73,000,000 Goku: 21,050,000 SSJ1 Goku: 68,500,000 Gohan: 23,500,000 SSJ1 Gohan: 70,000,000 SSJ2 Gohan: 100,000,000 Future Trunks: 22,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 55,500,000 Vegeta: 28,625,000 SSJ1 Vegeta: 58,250,000 Piccolo: 52,500,000 Cell Jr’s: 58,000,000 Android 16: 28,000,000 Super Perfect Cell: 80,000,000 Summary All Z fighters PL’s have increased due to training in the spirit room and preparation for this fight. Vegeta and the Cell Jr were well matched, where as everyone else struggled to fight them. Piccolo went on a little spree at one point knocking them around, but that was because of teamwork, rather than brute force. Piccolo was a smart one;). SSJ2 Gohan was far superior to Cell. The power increase of Cell could be due to the saiyan genes inside of him, increasing his PL after blowing himself up. Movie 09 – Bojack Unbound Gohan: 23,500,000 SSJ1 Gohan: 70,000,000 SSJ2 Gohan: 100,000,000 Future Trunks: 22,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 55,500,000 Vegeta: 28,625,000 SSJ1 Vegeta: 58,250,000 Piccolo: 52,500,000 Bojack: 75,000,000 Bido: 45,000,000 Bujin: 45,000,000 Kogu: 35,000,000 Zangya: 40,000,000 Summary SSJ1 Trunks easily defeated Kogu after becoming a super saiyan. Although the other henchmen were working as a team, I feel they were more powerful than Kogu on account of how well they beat up Trunks and Gohan. Bojack was absolutely no match for SSJ2 Gohan. Free the Future Future Trunks: 22,500,000 SSJ1 Future Trunks: 55,500,000 Android 18: 16,000,000 Android 17: 16,000,000 Cell: 18,000,000 Summary The androids of the future were weaker than the ones of the original timeline, thus Cell was created powerful enough to take them in this timeline, but had to absorb lots of power before he could beat Piccolo and take them in the original timeline. Movie 10 – Brolly Returns Gohan: 19,750,000 SSJ1 Gohan: 62,500,000 SSJ2 Gohan: 85,000,000 Trunks: 16,000,000 SSJ1 Trunks: 51,000,000 Goten: 15,250,000 SSJ1 Goten: 49,500,000 Legendary Super Saiyan Brolly: 100,000,000 Summary If Gohan was at his PL against Cell, I think it would’ve been a good fight. Not much else to say. Movie 11 – Bio Brolly Trunks: 16,000,000 SSJ1 Trunks: 51,000,000 Goten: 15,250,000 SSJ1 Goten: 49,500,000 Android 18: 20,000,000 Bio Brolly: 60,000,000 Summary When fighting together, Goten and Trunks were able to hand out a beating to Brolly, but Brolly was still more powerful than any of them individually. He was nowhere near his previous PL though. Movie 12 – Janemba Goku: 23,550,000 SSJ1 Goku: 78,000,000 SSJ2 Goku: 123,000,000 SSJ3 Goku: 360,000,000 Vegeta: 32,312,500 SSJ1 Vegeta: 73,000,000 SSJ2 Vegeta: 118,000,000 Pikehan: 80,000,000 Janemba: 350,000,000 Super Gogeta: 584,000,000 Summary Being as both Goku and Vegeta were both dead during this movie, the most fitting place would be before all the fusions and absorptions begin in the Buu Saga. I didn’t want to stick this crap in the middle of a saga though. SSJ3 Goku and Janemba were almost equal fighting, however Janemba was controlling the Spirit World and so had a vast amount of special abilities. Buu Saga World Tournament – Babidi Saga Trunks: 16,000,000 SSJ1 Trunks: 51,000,000 Goten: 15,250,000 SSJ1 Goten: 49,500,000 Android 18: 20,000,000 Pui Pui: 2,000,000 Yakon: 20,800,000 Dabura: 83,000,000 Vegeta: 32,312,500 SSJ1 Vegeta: 73,000,000 SSJ2 Vegeta: 118,000,000 SSJ2 Majin Vegeta: 123,000,000 Goku: 23,550,000 SSJ1 Goku: 78,000,000 SSJ2 Goku: 123,000,000 Gohan: 19,750,000 SSJ1 Gohan: 62,500,000 SSJ2 Gohan: 85,000,000 Piccolo: 12,500,000 Kibito: 10,000,000 Shin (Supreme Kai): 72,000,000 Summary Pui Pui was supposed to be one of the strongest fighters in the Universe, so he had to be significantly powerful. However he was nothing to Vegeta, and I doubt he was close to the likes of Frieza, who was also one of the strongest fighters in the Universe. Piccolo’s PL at this time had dropped dramatically since the Cell Games. Unfortunately, he wasn’t a significant fighter at this point. He had aged, and was one with Kami, who was extremely old. I think he had also lacked lust to train, due to his new personality from Kami, so I brought him back down to his PL during the beginning of the Android Saga. He was baffled by Shin’s power, which wasn’t so great. Dabura and SSJ2 Gohan were pretty much even but I can’t help thinking Gohan would’ve beat him if they had continued. I believe Shin was superior in power to any Super Saiyan during the time of the Cell Games (barring Gohan at SSJ2). He put up as much restistance against Majin Buu as anyone else did, barring Goku. Majin Buu Awakens Majin Buu: 130,000,000 Dabura: 83,000,000 Gohan: 19,750,000 SSJ1 Gohan: 62,500,000 SSJ2 Gohan: 85,000,000 Supreme Kai: 72,000,000 Vegeta: 32,312,500 SSJ1 Vegeta: 73,000,000 SSJ2 Vegeta: 118,000,000 SSJ2 Majin Vegeta: 123,000,000 Goku: 23,550,000 SSJ1 Goku: 78,000,000 SSJ2 Goku: 123,000,000 SSJ3 Goku: 360,000,000 Gotenks: 122,000,000 SSJ1 Gotenks: 192,000,000 Summary I rate Majin Buu at the PL stated above, on account of his fights with Dabura, Gohan, Shin and Vegeta, however it was stated several times by the Z fighters that they could sense a sort of ”secret well of power”, which could be referring to the power of Evil Buu, who’s presence becomes more apparent up until the point of extreme rage, when the dog is shot and Evil Buu is released. This also accounts for him holding his own against SSJ3 Goku, as the combine PL’s of the two sides to Buu make up Super Buu’s. Fusions and absorptions Good Buu: 130,000,000 Evil Buu: 170,000,000 Super Buu: 300,000,000 Gotenks: 142,000,000 SSJ1 Gotenks: 232,000,000 SSJ3 Gotenks: 312,000,000 Piccolo: 12,500,000 Mystic Gohan: 330,000,000 Ultra Buu (after absorbing Piccolo and SSJ3 Gotenks): 624,500,000 Supreme Buu (after absorbing Piccolo, Goten and Trunks): 343,000,000 Mega Buu (after absorbing Piccolo, Goten, Trunks and Mystic Gohan): 673,000,000 Vegito: 670,350,000 Super Vegito: 760,350,000 Summary Fusion – Two fighters PL’s added, then x 4. Potara – Two fighters PL’s added, then x 12. Absorptions – plus absorbed PL. The potara fusion was stated to be a more effective fusion than the dance. I t was not stated how much more effective but 3 times more fits in with my calculations. Gotenks was stated to be about even with Super Buu, and at this level give or take 12 mill is not that major, but the fact that SSJ3 Gotenks seemed to have the advantage before they finished I rank him a higher PL. Kid Buu Saga Kid Buu: 350,000,000 Goku: 23,550,000 SSJ1 Goku: 78,000,000 SSJ2 Goku: 123,000,000 SSJ3 Goku: 360,000,000 Vegeta: 32,312,500 SSJ1 Vegeta: 73,000,000 SSJ2 Vegeta: 118,000,000 Good Buu: 130,000,000 Summary I’ve always thought Kid Buu’s and Goku’s PL’s were inferior to Mystic Gohan and Super Buu, before watching the series through recently. When Supreme Kai’s flashbacks were shown it was stated that absorbing the two Kai’s, who were both stated stronger than Shin (latter Supreme Kai) had diminished Buu’s PL rather than increased it. Also, when Shin asked Goku if SSJ3 Gotenks was more powerful than himself, Goku’s reply was: “Well I can do it too, but wow, these two have pushed themselves to a limit I couldn’t even reach until my entire life was over” Goku didn’t reach this PL until he had died, but he obviously reached that limit when he became SSJ3. If Gohan was superior to Goku and Kid Buu in power It would’ve been a simple case of Shin instantly transporting him to the Kai World. Kid Buu was also stated several times to be stronger than he ever was before. Movie 13 – The Dragon Fist Explosion Trunks: 16,000,000 SSJ1 Trunks: 51,000,000 Goten: 15,250,000 SSJ1 Goten: 49,500,000 SSJ3 Gotenks: 312,000,000 Mystic Gohan: 330,000,000 Vegeta: 32,312,500 SSJ1 Vegeta: 73,000,000 SSJ2 Vegeta: 118,000,000 Goku: 23,550,000 SSJ1 Goku: 78,000,000 SSJ2 Goku: 123,000,000 SSJ3 Goku: 360,000,000 Hildegarn: 375,000,000 Overview He was more powerful than any of the Z fighters, mainly due to the fact that he was so massive and yet so fast. He was only defeated by Goku, using the Dragon Fist Explosion. Yet another crap movie that I’ve only added for pure sake, so no need to take this revision serious. Budokai – 10 years later Uub: 35,000,000 Goku: 33,550,000 SSJ1 Goku: 98,000,000 SSJ2 Goku: 163,000,000 SSJ3 Goku: 360,000,000 Vegeta: 42,312,500 SSJ1 Vegeta: 93,000,000 SSJ2 Vegeta: 158,000,000 Good Buu: 130,000,000 Trunks: 13,000,000 SSJ1 Trunks: 45,000,000 Goten: 12,250,000 SSJ1 Goten: 43,500,000 Pan: 15,000,000 Summary Goku and Uub were pretty even, however Uub had no battle experience, so I think a slight advantage in raw power over Goku, measures them up. Also, towards the end of the fight Goku felt the need to take to the sky and use the kamehameha, which incidently didn’t happen due to Uub’s inability to do either. Pan beat Goten. The clips were abit goofy but nether the less it was apparent that her base is more powerful than his. I added the other PL’s, Vegeta’s most importantly, to state my opinion that Vegeta is stronger than Good Buu, due to ten years passing Vegeta and Goku would not have slacked off training( as stated for Goten and Trunks, hence the PL downgrade) and Buu’s is a set PL. These PL’s also make way for DBGT, which I am yet to watch properly. |
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| Pookie | Apr 24 2006, 08:54 PM Post #2 |
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Pookie Powa!
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As much as I like looking at powerlevels. I have been on many websites and a lot of the power levels differ. Lol, but yours look pretty accurate. That's really cool that you posted it here. |
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| Braun | Apr 24 2006, 09:05 PM Post #3 |
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most of the other sites are full of people who immediatly attack and disregard the effort put into them;) |
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| Pookie | Apr 24 2006, 09:18 PM Post #4 |
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Pookie Powa!
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Alright, that's cool then. 8) |
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| Uub | Apr 24 2006, 09:35 PM Post #5 |
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Strongest of All
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Oozaru multiplies a Saiyan's power x10. |
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| Pookie | Apr 24 2006, 09:58 PM Post #6 |
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Pookie Powa!
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*Sighs* Not saying anything. |
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| Braun | Apr 24 2006, 10:07 PM Post #7 |
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Uub, your ignorance is stereotypical. Go back and read the whats and whys of my calculations. |
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| marius_bleek | Apr 24 2006, 11:39 PM Post #8 |
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i like ur thinking. a lot of em i think r pretty accurate but looking back at the manga (which is always right) i have a few corrections. nappa's power level was stated at 4000 (not 6000). When goku first arrived at the battle, nappa was enraged that goku had a power level of 5000(vegeta's scouter picked this up).If nappa's was 6000 like u said it was, nappa wouldnt have been so afraid. The tree of might was totally wrong. i dont mean to be rude er nothing. turles has a scouter and sees that piccolo has a power level of 18,000. i can safely say that this movie took place immediatley after the saiyan saga. so many of the other earthlings would have a power of around 12,000. and goku with 30,000 when going kao-ken x5 Zarbon's base power level was 23,000, and his transformed state was around 10,000 higher than his base form (so says the manga)Vegeta had a tough time with zarbon the first time around, then increased to an unknown amount. It's probably a little bit under Recoome, Jeice and Burter, because he gives Recoome a pretty good fight. Belive it or not the power levels of any ginyu memeber except Captain ginyu are never stated in the maga or anime. Weird but true. Everything else seemed up to par |
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| Braun | Apr 25 2006, 01:34 AM Post #9 |
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Thanks for the praise parts but i specifically, several times over explained how my power level revision has absolutely nothing based on the manga. I recognise the fact that its the original stuff, but ive never seen it and so my power levels do not go by it. My title is DBZ Anime Power Levels. None of the Saiyan Saga corrections are stated in the anime. Concerning the tree of might. I also explained how i knew of the stated PL's but chose to ignore them due to their disproportion |
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| Pookie | Apr 25 2006, 04:09 AM Post #10 |
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Pookie Powa!
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Some sites are off by a thousand. Your numbers look pretty right to me, but lol it's hard to tell when there are so many different opinions on it, you know? |
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| * Kogu 87 | Apr 25 2006, 08:59 AM Post #11 |
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Training hard !!
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man it's hard to imagine how far the Z-fighters have come....even the human ones...i mean when we first see Nappa, with his powerlevel in the thousands, It's insane...unbeleivably powerful. hahahah, oh man....and then when we move a few 100 episodes forward....we get power levels in the millions....It's just crazy....so for me, i don't really like looking at poewr levels....they get too complicated and too big !! And then the contravercy begins....heheh that's why Akira Toriyama stopped putting them in... I mean by the end of Z, even Tien;s power level is in the millions !! ao imagine the super saiyans !?? |
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-Training is bliss- -The Stamina Sessions- If challenge had a taste, you'd be quite delicious | |
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| marius_bleek | Apr 25 2006, 06:18 PM Post #12 |
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yeah they start to elevate pretty fast immediately after the ginyu saga. anything past the frieza saga are just educated guesses though |
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