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| Shikamaru | Mar 17 2006, 04:08 PM Post #121 |
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"Geez...how troublesome..."
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and in the Buu saga he clearly states that he will never be stronger thatn Goku, no matter how hard he trains... |
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| Uub | Mar 18 2006, 04:25 AM Post #122 |
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Strongest of All
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I already said that. Vegeta MAY surpass Goku one day but it'd be in the afterlife when they're dead seeing how SSJ3 can't be achieved by Earthly training. |
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| Steven | Mar 24 2006, 06:48 AM Post #123 |
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Vegeta and Goku need eachother to save the world. Without eachother they wouldn't have an rivals to try and surpass. Sure you can argue Gohan may become Gokus rival, but Gohan doesn't train like these two do. Without these two the world would be doomed. Vegeta may never be as strong as Goku, but he is one hell of a sidekick. |
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| Kid Gohan | Mar 24 2006, 11:45 PM Post #124 |
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Goku is stronger than vegeta we all know that. But that aint vegetas fault if it went on training alone vegeta would surely be the strongest. It just isnt in his genes to be stronger than goku. But it is in gokus genes thats why frieza destroyed planet vegeta because he was getting worried that bardock was getting so strong. Bardock was no match for frieza then but maybe one day he would of been. At the end of the day DBZ wouldnt be the same without either fighter. |
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| zanderman | Mar 25 2006, 03:49 AM Post #125 |
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really had nothing to do with Bardock...you just think so because of the filler, and though it is more accurate than the movies its still filler Furiza was afraid all the saiya-jins were getting too powerful so he needed to destroy them before they rebelled Vejita is weak, he always will be...he became weak over the span of DBZ with him admitting that Gokou is stronger than him, disgraceful to the saiya-jin race and Bardock would have never had a chance to defeat Furiza...The Super Saiya-jin is a legendary title for one every thousand years, no chance Bardock could reach that epic level after the Furiza saga, SSJ was made into a mocary and a childs game...destruction of a legend |
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| Kid Gohan | Mar 25 2006, 11:26 PM Post #126 |
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Yes he was afraid that bardock was getting to strong sure he was no match but he may of been one day. Bardock was becoming one of the strongest saiyans if not the strongest and may of turned super saiyan one day for you to say he had no chance is laughable. One every thousand years funny that, they were popping up on earth right left and centre. And because vegeta admitted that he wasnt as strong as goku that dont make him weak in any way, not many were a match for goku, vegeta has pride and that meant that he had to finally accept he was no match, people think vegeta was cold hearted at the start but he wasnt, he stilled called himself prince vegeta even though he new he was king vegeta, WHY? Simple he didnt want to admit his father was dead, thats not cold hearted. |
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| zanderman | Mar 25 2006, 11:39 PM Post #127 |
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once again mods be grateful that i dont curse this retard off Bardock is pretty much not real...since it is a TV Special it is filler, its not in the manga so its not Canon Bardock was killed by a mere energy ball by Furiza, look at that compared to everything Gokou took in his fight...Furiza was also in his first stage when he killed Bardock again, the legendary Super Saiya-jin is the form one person every thousand years reaches...Gokou was extremely powerful while Bardock is nothing and something else you do not know, Dragonball Z was meant to end after the Furiza saga aka after Gokou goes SSJ following the one every thousand legend Vejita loses every one of his fights besides Zarbon and Dodoria (who are weak), and Pui Pui (another disgrace), he let Seru absorb 18 and reach his perfect form...he let himself be taken over by Babidi BECAUSE HE WAS TOO WEAK, he seeked power how was he not coldhearted? destroyed countless planets, kills teamates, and makes fights harder for the z-senshi by helping the villain in ways while he gets knocked around |
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| Kid Gohan | Mar 26 2006, 01:07 AM Post #128 |
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I dont care if it was filler or not bardock is real, maybe you forgot hes gokus dad >:[ yeah he was killed by a mere energy blast, sure frieza was in his 1st stage but maybe one day (to help you out that means in the future not now) bardock would of become a super saiyan, it could of happend. Vegeta letting cell absorb 18 wasnt weak it was arrogant, vegeta didnt let babadi take over his mind because he was weak it was just to become stronger, yeah he was weaker than goku but hardly weak overall, if he was coldhearted he would of called himself king vegeta not prince vegeta, he hoped his dad was still alive even though he knew that was impossible, hardly a act of a cold hearted person. And last but not least CURSE ME ALL YOU LIKE look im shaking :rolleyes: |
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| Seruphim | Mar 26 2006, 01:21 AM Post #129 |
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Cell's Angel
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um, Zanderman meant that Bardock wasnt planned (like most of the dbz series heh) kinda like GT....GT wasnt planned, but it happened anyway. Bardock wasnt planned, but he happened anyway (im making him sound like a mistake of a one stand lol) so most people dont count it as actual DBZ canon (to help you out that means it was made by the original creator not by other people) And, also, the going super saiyan thing, it had a LEGEND behind it, that said that a super saiyan would come around every 1000 YEARS, so if DBZ had ended at the frieza saga, like Akira had planned it to, then the legend would still be true. And since only a SUPER SAIYAN can beat FREIZA then Bardock NEVER would've gotten the SLIGHTEST percentage of a victory over him, no matter how much time he had to train. and Vegeta not calling himself king because of that....err....I think that would be classified under opinion since he never states that. I think Vegeta just puts up a cold front though. Well, not at first, naturally, but in the Buu saga, like when he sacrificed himself and actually hugged Trunks. |
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| zanderman | Mar 26 2006, 01:36 AM Post #130 |
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god what a fool...every time you post read the word right under "Kid Gohan", or below an avatar if u get one Bardock isnt real, why do u think he is never mentioned, the only thing is Furiza saying "You look kind of familiar", thats it Bardock would never have reached SSJ, he is about 20% of the power of a SSJ Vejita let Babidi take him over because he was weak, aka he wanted more power...and by the end of DBZ he is extremely weak, never surpassing SSJ2, both Gokou and Gohan were stronger as well Gotenks...and Uub how would it make him coldhearted if he called himself king...he calls himself prince cause he is a baby and it had nothing to do with King Vejita, again he never existed either besides a few mentions...he never felt he was still alive he is an arrogant prick, just like you...you cant fight this point anymore, you are wrong just leave it |
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| Kid Gohan | Mar 26 2006, 01:50 AM Post #131 |
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I know what cannon is some count it some dont, and i do, even crappy GT counts no matter who it was made by its dragonball at the end of the day. Well first off i said MAYBE bardock would become a super saiyan not he would, and it dont matter when it was suppose to end the fact is it didnt end after frieza saga and later on in the sagas saiyans popped up all over the place, SO bardock could of become a super saiyan and defeated frieza, goku would of still been on earth the story would of still continued, just a little different, theres always gonna be a evil bad guy to take friezas place, and vegeta not calling himself king....er....because he dont want to accept his dad is dead, WHY else? |
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| Seruphim | Mar 26 2006, 01:53 AM Post #132 |
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um, maybe because he knew there were only two pure saiyans left, both males, and so they'd never have a chance of getting their race back. I mean, its pretty stupid to claim yourself king of a race thats on the verge of extinction while on a totally different planet, especailly when the other saiyan is stronger than you. |
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| Kid Gohan | Mar 26 2006, 01:54 AM Post #133 |
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LMAO at zanderman i may be a prick but at least i aint got one hanging off my forehead, however i have got one hanging somwhere else and boy does it hang. |
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| Seruphim | Mar 26 2006, 01:56 AM Post #134 |
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Cell's Angel
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ok, was it just me or did anyone else not get that random bashing? |
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| Kid Gohan | Mar 26 2006, 02:01 AM Post #135 |
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Before goku qnd vegeta become vegito goku tells vegeta its time to start a new race on this planet, vegeta would naturally become king (prince) of that race,he was a king but called himself a prince it dosnt matter if goku was stronger he aint the type of person to use that against vegeta, he was a king but called himself a prince now you know why. |
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