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| marius_bleek | Mar 31 2006, 01:13 AM Post #166 |
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I really don't bother arguing about GT, since I didn't find it gave a good name to the Dragonball series, but whatever.... What i find strange, is Vegeta's power level increases over the course of the saiyan and freeza saga... The first time we see out pal vegeta, his power level was a cool 18,000 respectively.After his defeat on earth (if u wanna call it taht), he finds out that Freeza has off and left to Namek in search of the dragonballs. When he arrives, his long time rival "Kui" greets him. Kui threatens to kill him, but the constant fighting on earth has made vegeta battle hardened. We find out that his power level has increased to 24,000(check dbz manga volume 5 i beleive) Kui used to be vegeta's equal, but the new and improved prince makes short work of him. He then kills Dodoria and such. After his meeting with Zarbon (who has a 23,000 power rating), vegeta is confident of his powers. Zarbon defeats Vegeta by transforming and increasing his power to 33,000. When Vegeta is healed, he gains another increase, and defeats zarbon easily at their rematch. This must mean that when the Ginyu Force arrives, Vegeta's pwer level was prolly around 40,000. Though the exact power level of Recoome, Jeice and Burter are never stated, i figure them for around 45,000 each. When Vegeta he beat up by Recoome and recovers, he fights Jeice. Jeice checks his scouter and is flabergasted(but we arent told the exact level). The next fight after that is against base form Freeza (who is 530,000) and Vegeta. He is able to hold his own against him. It's weird. All of Vegeta's power increments had been small from each fight, 18k-24k-40k...then an enormous jump to about 500,000...... Somethings gotta give Sorry for the long ***** post, but I liek to type a lot
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| Seruphim | Mar 31 2006, 04:44 AM Post #167 |
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Well, yeah, a saiyan increases his power by fighting and living through it. That's what the whole saiyan race is about. :blink: |
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| Uub | Mar 31 2006, 04:47 AM Post #168 |
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After the Saiyans go Super Saiyan, it seems that the Zenkai boosts are either little or non-existent. |
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| otim | Mar 31 2006, 05:49 PM Post #169 |
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vegeta can go ssj3 but he needs grand kais special technique and training to go ssj3 |
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| marius_bleek | Mar 31 2006, 06:59 PM Post #170 |
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and how do u know this? Does anyone ever say that in the anime and/or manga. To the best of my knowledge, ss2 is his highest transformation |
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| zanderman | Apr 1 2006, 01:58 AM Post #171 |
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Believe It!
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hah ty for cheering me up for the day...Vejita never passes SSJ2, and suprisingly he is the strongest of all the Saiya-jins in this state You also have to have inner power to recieve Elder Kai's training, which probably neither Vejita or Gokou has as they already brought out most of their potential all of this excluding GT |
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| Uub | Apr 1 2006, 05:56 AM Post #172 |
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Wait a minute, are you saying Vegita is stronger than all other Saiya-Jins with his SSJ2 form? |
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| zanderman | Apr 1 2006, 05:18 PM Post #173 |
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Believe It!
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if all the saiya-jins (alive) were in their SSJ2 state, Vejita is the strongest SSJ1: Gokou > Gohan > Vejita (gokou, gohan around equal due to them perfecting the form) SSJ2: Vejita > Gokou > Gohan SSJ3: Gotenks > Gokou (though Gotenks is a cocky piece of crap and Gokou has more expierence, its still a fusion giving it a much stronger power boost) left out Mirai No Torankasu, Chibi Torankasu, and Goten as they are the weakest, and also left out the USSJ forms |
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| * Kogu 87 | Apr 1 2006, 06:57 PM Post #174 |
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Training hard !!
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I agree with the above in most points, but i dont see why vegeta is stronger than goku in SSJ 2 form. I watched hteir fight rescently and they were equal, no indication watsoever that vegeta was stronger. And if ur talkin about the time when he knocked down goku at the end of the fight, that was a sucker punch, goku's defences were down so it doesnt count. Although his ss2 form is stronger in GT, simply because of gokus small body. |
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| Uub | Apr 2 2006, 06:53 AM Post #175 |
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I don't believe that Mirai Trunks is one of the weakest. He more than likely kept training after he killed Cell just in case anybody would decide to threaten the Earth again. |
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| stephen | Apr 2 2006, 08:46 AM Post #176 |
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I accualy wonder if in trunkses timeline buu hatches :/ cause if he does all was pretty much for nothing |
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| Uub | Apr 2 2006, 04:13 PM Post #177 |
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Not neccasarily. Since Trunks' timeline is totally different from the one we know, then the events before Buu is hatched may change. Remember, Trunks has no knowledge or the Namekian dragonballs so that means all of the other fighters are still dead. There are also less people on Earth, meaning that Buu wouldn't be revived any time soon because of the lack of energy he'd be getting from the lack of people on Earth. But if Supreme Kai would get to Trunks WAY before Buu arrives on Earth, then he could offer him the training with the Z Sword & if he breaks it, then Elder Kai will be released & Trunks could get the Mystic form, thus allowing him to defeat Buu rather easily. |
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| Julian5 | Apr 2 2006, 05:32 PM Post #178 |
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Sometimes I undersand time travel stuff, sometimes it hurts my head.
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| marius_bleek | Apr 2 2006, 05:34 PM Post #179 |
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Yeah well that's just ur assumption. I assume that once babidi came to hatch buu in future Trunk's timeline, he woulda got killed just as fast as anybody else. In fact, he is one of the weaker fighters(other than yamcha, tien chaozu and maybe piccolo) Don't get me wrong, i like trunks, but i think he shooda played a more important role in the DBZ series. The only thing he really accomplished was killing Freeza, and warning the others about the androids... |
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| Kid Gohan | Apr 2 2006, 10:00 PM Post #180 |
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If all SSJ2 were to fight the reason why vegeta would be the strongest is because he never passes this level (apart from SSJ4 with that machine in GT) so he trains constantly as a SSJ2 perfecting everything he does in that form. |
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