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SSG Gauntlet
Topic Started: Jul 9 2018, 01:00 AM (459 Views)
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PF18
Jul 9 2018, 01:00 AM
This one may be controversial just by the nature of it but if Goku hypothetically were to do the ritual at these points in time could he win against the following opponents?

SSG Goku(BoDB) vs Final Form Freeza(50%)
SSG Goku(BoZ) vs Perfect Form Cell(vs Goku)
SSG Goku Saiyan Arc vs Kid Buu
SSG Goku(Just Landed on Namek) vs Buuhan

BoDB Goku: 10
-SSJGOD: 6,400,000

Final Form Frieza 50%: 60,000,000

Goku gets stomped.

BoZ Goku: 416
-SSJGOD: 226,240,000

Perfect Cell: 3,600,000,000

Cell stomps.

Saiyan saga Goku: 8,000
-SSJGOD: 5,120,000,000

Kid Buu: 30,400,000,000

Kid Buu stomps.

Namek saga Goku: 90,000
-SSJGOD: 57,600,000,000

Buuhan: 1,600,000,000,000

Buuhan stomps.

Lol I have Super Saiyan God like 640,000x base or 1,600x Super Saiyan 3. Needless to say, the regular gaps are too big for the huge amp God gives to do anything against tbh. If he can use Blue then he'd win with ease each round.

Multipliers:

-SSJ: 50x base
-SSJ2: 100x base or 2x Super Saiyan
-SSJ3: 400x base or 4x Super Saiyan 2
-SSJGOD: 640,000x base or 1,600x Super Saiyan 3
-SSJBLUE: 32,000,000x base or 50x Super Saiyan God
Edited by Solid Snake, Jul 9 2018, 04:23 PM.
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Jul 9 2018, 05:09 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 04:59 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 04:51 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 04:43 AM
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Jul 9 2018, 04:30 AM
I think he loses horribly. Even in my not so modest numbers I put SSjGod at 5x SSj3, so 2000x.
20,000 (BoDB)
836,000 (BoZ)
16,000,000 (Saiyajin Arc)
160,000,000 (Beginning of Namek Arc)
how does 5x SSJ3 work? Goku went from as a SSJ3 being inferior to Super Buu and Ultimate Gohan and then he goes SSG and now he is way stronger than a hypothetical

SSG Goku>SSJ3 Vegetto>SSJ Vegetto>>Base Vegetto~Buuhan>Buutenks>Ultimate Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks>Super Buu>SSJ Gotenks~SSJ3 Goku

He has to jump that entire chain so at a minimum it has to be a couple hundred times SSJ3.

Him being stronger than SSJ3 Vegetto is implied by:

1. Goku says that fusion wouldn't work against the heavily suppressed Beerus on King Kai's planet.
2. Goku, upon achieving Super Saiyan god says that he didn't even know that a level of power like that could even exist.
3. The same Beerus that Goku said fusion wasn't enough for, had to power up further in order to fight evenly with SSG Goku

Of course, he knows that a level of power of SSJ3 Vegetto could exist and he knew it couldn't do anything against a heavily suppressed Beerus who was weaker than the one that he fought as a SSG.
Alright, my bad. Goku clears everything.
I apologize I didn't mean to just kind of attack you I was just trying to show why I thought it was strange that SSG could be a 5x boost over SSJ3. I wouldn't be opposed to hearing your reasoning for coming up with your figure.
It boils down to the fact that I just hate the power bloat and see 2000x as more than enough. If you want to go with a modest canon multiplier.

Base Vegetto > SSj3 Goku and could actively fight Buuhan in the anime.
Therefore, he's at minimum 1,000x Base Goku
His SSj3 multiplies that by 400x, making him 400,000x Base Goku
That means that SSjGod needs to have a marginal edge over that, and once again we'll give him a 250% edge and put him at 1,000,000x Base

BoDB Goku - 10,000,0000 (Miscalculation on my part. He'd lose. Miscalculated as 100,000,000)
BoZ Goku - 480,000,000
Saiyajin Arc - 8,000,000,000
BoNA - 80,000,000,000

Again this may be up to interpretation from individual to individual, but I put Suppressed Cell, Kid Buu, and Buuhan all within those ranges in my power levels. My numbers tend to be very compact and modest, and play on the fact that small, relative differences in power down to ~10-20% have decided fights in DBZ before.
Alright that makes sense. So which ones do you have him winning again? All of them besides Freeza?
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I have SSG as a 375,000 multiplier, so.....

If you have BODB Goku as high as 20, his PL would be 7,500,000, he gets stomped in scenario 1.

BOZ Goku would be at 156,000,000, barely above his SSJ self on Namek, so Cell would stomp him easily in scenario 2.

Saiyan saga Goku would be at 3,000,000,000, Buu would kill him there

Finally, his Namek self would be at 22,500,000,000, so he'd lose there too.


He'd lose in every scenario, but the last two imo he'd be a lot loser than the first 2.
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The way I see it SSG is a 8M times multiplier. So the numbers look like this to me:

80M>60M
3.3.M<5.7M
64B>39B
720B<830B

So he loses the 2nd match against Cell and the last match against Buuhan but wins the rest.
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