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Why does God allow children to die?
Topic Started: Jul 5 2018, 08:35 PM (1,359 Views)
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What reason does God have for allowing children to die?


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Because it's only the grand scheme of things that matter, I guess.
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So like, if they lived it would cause something bad to happen? Too bad Heinrich Himmler never got childhood leukaemia.


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Jul 5 2018, 09:31 PM
So like, if they lived it would cause something bad to happen? Too bad Heinrich Himmler never got childhood leukaemia.
I've never understood the mindless justification for Gods deeds.

Like because it's God anything it does or doesn't do can't be bad because it's the almighty, if it wants to flick a babies head off for fun that's not an evil thing to do 'cause it's God.

Fact is if God is all powerful and all knowing, it knows every bad thing that is going to happen and set it all in motion.
It knows if someone is going to turn out to be a rapist or a murderer and just lets that happen but also expects people to feel sorry for their bad deeds that God let happen.

That just doesn't make any sense really. God only makes sense as a being of worship if it essentially lit the fire of the universe and didn't control what happened.
Otherwise you're thanking God for stillborn children, children born with diseases, all the horrible and painful ways there are to die, mental illness etc etc

I've no interest in thanking God for all the good in the world when it created so many awful things despite not needing to do so.
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Jul 5 2018, 09:59 PM
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Jul 5 2018, 09:31 PM
So like, if they lived it would cause something bad to happen? Too bad Heinrich Himmler never got childhood leukaemia.
I've never understood the mindless justification for Gods deeds.

Like because it's God anything it does or doesn't do can't be bad because it's the almighty, if it wants to flick a babies head off for fun that's not an evil thing to do 'cause it's God.

Fact is if God is all powerful and all knowing, it knows every bad thing that is going to happen and set it all in motion.
It knows if someone is going to turn out to be a rapist or a murderer and just lets that happen but also expects people to feel sorry for their bad deeds that God let happen.

That just doesn't make any sense really. God only makes sense as a being of worship if it essentially lit the fire of the universe and didn't control what happened.
Otherwise you're thanking God for stillborn children, children born with diseases, all the horrible and painful ways there are to die, mental illness etc etc

I've no interest in thanking God for all the good in the world when it created so many awful things despite not needing to do so.
I don't understand, you say it would be ok with God for him to flick a babies head off like that actually happened.
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Jul 5 2018, 10:03 PM
I don't understand, you say it would be ok with God for him to flick a babies head off like that actually happened.
God has done much worse than that yet is still considered this wonderful benevolent being.
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If you believe in God then you likely believe that God has plan. If people suffer from death and illness death must be part of the plan some how. The pain of a child's death must have some function on God's end goal.
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I believe the bible says God has actually turned his back from the problems of the world for the time being.
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I'm assuming for a moment that I do believe God existed. He takes you into existence against your own choice and either puts you through early death or forces you to live a life exactly as he says and don't dare question anything or have another opinion, love him, worship him and believe whatever he wants you to believe without providing you with solid evidence, despite that there is enough evidence around us for other theories that are actually comprehensible for the human mind - which was given to us by him too -, otherwise he is going to make you live an endless afterlife of torture, and all this with him already knowing what was supposed to happen. When he gives you a terrible and painful disease, makes you suffer a trauma like the death of someone very beloved to you, has you raped and beaten as a child, has you kidnapped by some sick bastards and be tortured until your eyeballs pop out your head etc. it's just to 'test' you if you are worthy enough of living in a happy green garden with him - even though you might have already proved to him that you're a good and docile Christian. I am really sorry, but in this case I cannot believe that this is some kind of grand plan of things, but rather a sick experiment of a loveless god.


P.S. regarding the children thing - please read this. Forty-two children killed by two bears sent by the god (so not only he lets children die, he sometimes kills them himself), because they were mocking a baldy. I mean, hell, they did not even get the chance to grow up and ripen their minds, learn from mistakes, atone for their sins and be judged at the final day accordingly, like the rest of us. No way, jose. Straight to being mauled by a f***in' bear.
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Its called karma. Your own actions, deeds be it in the past life, past decade, or even past year takes its toll on ya.

If its childrens in ur OP, got to do with karma of their past life or their parents. I've known filthy rich guys running after $$$ 24/7 over 30 years of their lives toppling rival companies, squash opposition workers/staffs like ant, ruling his empire with iron-fist, when his child suffers from health, psychological & mental illnessess. So who's to blame here?

God never wanted war, death, disease or natural disasters to occur. But if does takes place, regardless of children or adult, it should be perceived as next step towards attaining enlightment in which we prepare ourself via maturity
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It's still an incredibly sick thing to do, to punish an innocent child for their families misdeeds or what they did in a past life, when they have absolutely no memory or control over any of that.

Literally just to use an innocent child as a tool to punish people.



And yeah as for the test thing people lead horrible, evil lives and get no comeuppance for it. And people lead saint worthy lives helping everyone they can and generally being completely selfless, cancer.
Doesn't make any sense to punish people after their awful life already ended or when they've started a new, pure one.
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It is not like he lets it happen. He just doesnt intervene which isnt the same

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Jul 6 2018, 07:08 AM
It is not like he lets it happen. He just doesnt intervene which isnt the same
It is when you're supposedly all powerful.

And it certainly doesn't make you good to watch innocents dying, have the power to stop it and just not bother.


So...why worship that? What exactly does this God do for people? The whole idea isn't very inspiring.
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Jul 6 2018, 07:44 AM
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It is not like he lets it happen. He just doesnt intervene which isnt the same
It is when you're supposedly all powerful.

And it certainly doesn't make you good to watch innocents dying, have the power to stop it and just not bother.


So...why worship that? What exactly does this God do for people? The whole idea isn't very inspiring.
God isnt your everyday friendly neighbourhood Spiderman who slings his web "swoosh" & saves your child from bomb at the nick of time & relishes in the glories act he's done

God....sends messenger. Or manifests himself in the form of human, thought, acts to prevent certain catastrophe. Saving countless lives like 13 year-old girl that saved countless lives by warning beach-side standers of impending tsunami wave back in 2004, God provides herbs which helps cure diseases, gifted mankind enormous knowledge to improvise & make this world a better place

Its simply us, mankind's greed & lust for wealth, power & authority that becomes root for all sort of misery. War, mass geneocide, terrorism, unethical acts like child abuse/murder, drugs, gangsterism, all sorts of crap

This topic, falls under mankind's fault. Not God

God exists within every one of us. Which is your self-consciousness. If you nurture good thoughts, good values, pure heart & innocent mind, God resides within you.

That basically answers the whole question
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Jul 6 2018, 08:13 AM
That basically answers the whole question
Doesn't really answer anything. Doesn't answer to why would god (assuming he existed) let a 7-years-old child be kidnapped in the middle of the day, raped and beaten to death. Why would an ever-loving, omnipotent god ever permit something like that? To send a message? To punish someone else? What an efficient solution!


See, that's the problem I have with religious people. They have an answer for everything. They think they know it all. Somehow what they think and believe must be always true and never to be questioned. Because reasons.
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