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Goku vs. Mecha Frieza
Topic Started: Jun 26 2018, 04:15 PM (815 Views)
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Freeza knew his limitations and Goku's strengths and still thought he could win, something that goes uncontradicted. I think that any argument in favor of Goku here relies on headcanons that might be plausible but aren't supported by the work itself.

superperfectnerd mentioned IT but I don't think that's a factor here. This is Namek!Goku.
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Jun 26 2018, 04:34 PM
I don't believe Frieza's claims about being able to defeat Goku. Goku still wins.
I've always thought about that. Frieza doesn't have the ability to sense energy, so how can he know for sure he could beat Goku?
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He can't sense ki but should still be able to tell how strong his opponent is, specially after such an intense battle.

Early on the series, most of the characters were seemingly unable to sense ki at all but could still deliver accurate assessments of other people's strength.
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He can't sense ki but should still be able to tell how strong his opponent is, specially after such an intense battle.

Early on the series, most of the characters were seemingly unable to sense ki at all but could still deliver accurate assessments of other people's strength.
Good point. But I wonder if Frieza was fully aware that Goku was not at his max after he transformed.
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Getting punched in the face gives you far more in depth assessment of power compared to ki sense
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I have no problem having freiza still weaker then goku. While technically being stronger then his past self.

Goku 150,000,000

Final form freiza 120,000,000
Mecha freiza/ technically final form 140,000,000

Technically with those numbers freiza got stronger but is still below goku.

The way the fight went down id say if i was freiza i think i could win especially with back up which in his final form id assume stronger or close to freiza.
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Android Arc SSj Goku > Mecha Frieza > Namek Saga Goku > Full Power Final Form Frieza
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I don't really see a reason not to take Freeza's confidence at face value. His doubt can just come from expecting Goku to be stronger. Freeza was also Goku's near equal on Namek so his cybernetic enhancements would have to be rather pitiful for him to still end up weaker here.
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