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Goku vs. Mecha Frieza
Topic Started: Jun 26 2018, 04:15 PM (814 Views)
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If Namek Arc SSJ Goku fights the Frieza that comes to Earth, can he win? Goku will be at full health, so his PL will be at 150 million (he struggled against FP Frieza at 120 million due to being worn out).
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Freeza: 160

SSJ Goku: 150

Goku probably loses. Maybe he can pull one over on Freeza with such a minuscule difference, but I'm inclined to say Freeza would win.
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Freeza trained enough to make sure he was stronger than the Goku he fought at Namek, although he still had nightmares about it and the moment he saw a Super Saiyan he acted rashly. I'll agree with Prince.
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I don't believe Frieza's claims about being able to defeat Goku. Goku still wins.
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I'm all for statements > feats, but there's nothing to really indicate that Mecha Frieza was actually stronger than his 100% form on Namek, yet alone SSJ Goku. Given his hilariously terrible performance against SSJ Trunks, it's hard to imagine he's anywhere north of 150,000,000. This is also ignoriing that SSJ Goku wasn't going 100% full throttle against Frieza towards the end, so his estimates could very well be skewed.

SSJ Goku beats Mecha Frieza even if he's at a slight deficit of power. Simply a much better fighter.
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Jun 26 2018, 04:34 PM
I don't believe Frieza's claims about being able to defeat Goku. Goku still wins.
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Outside of the manga?
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I have Goku and Freeza being an even match for each other here. Should we assume that Freeza no longer has to expand his muscles in order to use his full power, these two would have a very long battle. Goku could eventually win using the techniques at his disposal. Alternatively, Freeza's Death Beams are going to be hurting a lot more now so maybe he wins.
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Well, I dont play digits. So lets roll

Namek SSJ Goku took on 75% kiai & then 100% Full-Powered Frieza till dude burnt-out his stamina

While I dont know extent of Mecha Frieza's full-power, I'd assume those cybernetic enchancements were mere prosthetics to aid Frieza's amputated lower limb & arm.

Was it ever stated Frieza trained or sumthin?

Didnt he say in ROF he never trained ever in his life before?

So I'd say in the rush of seeking revenge, Frieza immediately dashed to Earth full of himself over the fact he's got his strength restored PLUS the fact he's got his dad, King Cold at his side

At least with his natural organic body, Frieza can transform at will say into his 2nd, 3rd, Final 4th Form, 50% or 100% Full-Power

You dont get to do that as Mecha is what I think. With 80% of his body covered by cybernetic enchancements, I cannot see Frieza either raising his powers should the need rises

Add to the fact Namek SSJ Goku had bested the best Frieza had, 100% Full-Power State.

I really think this fight is either a draw or a very narrow advantage to Namek SSJ Goku
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So Freeza was just being arrogant? I suppose he can join Boo arc Vegeta in the club of absolute morons whose statements should immediately be disregarded.

Freeza wins--there's a crystal clear, uncontradicted statement in the story that proves as much. The entire point of Freeza even returning becomes completely moot if he's only marginally stronger than he was on Namek and still weaker than Goku.
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It's in the guidebooks too. Not sure why every statement has to be questioned, cross-examined, put on trial, and interrogated nowadays. Things were simpler in the golden age.
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Freeza is a bit stronger now, and even on Namek he fought Goku fairly well despite being only 80% of Goku with his power rapidly falling, so he'd likely win fairly comfortably.
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Freeza was relatively confident he could beat Goku but he was far more sure with his father there than by himself. The battle is probably relatively close but there's still a chance that Goku, being just an overall far better fighter (and that's also assuming Freeza's not suffering under similar issues from before) can still pull out a victory. I see this as basically being a longer version of the battle on Namek but I'm not going to be surprised if thanks to technique and skill, Goku wins.
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Freeza can't sense ki, all he knows is that he gave Goku a fight on Namek and now he is stronger with his mecha body. He doesn't know the gap he's closing through sensing Goku's power though, he's just guessing his power increase is enough to handle what he faced but Goku was already tired when he transformed as well. I have them even at full power but Goku should logically win thanks to being able to sense ki himself and having a saiyans fighting instincts... plus IT.

The manga tells us that Freeza is stronger than before and he thinks he can beat Goku.
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Freeza was aware of the Saiyans' abilities to grow stronger after fighting, so he probably stomps as he likely expected to face a powered up Goku.
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