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SS3 Goku vs SS Gotenks; Reeeaadddd
Topic Started: Jun 25 2018, 01:28 AM (289 Views)
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Both Buu arc

SS3 Goku (ded) vs SS Gotenks (pre)

Condition: Goku trains in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for one year

Round 2: SS Gotenks (post)
Round 3: SS2 Gotenks (post)
Edited by Son-Goku, Jun 25 2018, 03:08 PM.
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Goku would have a much better control of SS3 and would gain a bit of power from a year of training. Goku wins for sure. I only have pre-RoSaT SS Gotenks a bit ahead of SS3 Goku.
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SSJ3 Goku beats the crap out of SSJ Gotenks. The gap between the two in the canon is never stated to be immense, so I could have it as small as 1.25x. Coupled with Goku's vastly superior fighting abilities and techniques (Ghost Kamikazi is fun and all, but novelty), and I have him edging a victory even before this extra year in the ROSAT.

After a year controlling SSJ3? He casually handles Gotenks.
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Added two more rounds
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Well if base gotenks was around ssj1 or ssj2 goku then ssj gotenks should be stronger than ssj3 goku
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Goku beats any ssj Gotenks for me without any extra training required.

I'd even have ssj3 Goku with a slight power advantage over ssj2 Gotenks but ssj3 is far too taxing for him to last long, even in Otherworld, just much longer than the living world but ssj2 is far superior for a drawn out fight.

Goku could win both rounds with no extra training.

Ssj Gotenks (pre) = 18,000,000,000

Ssj Gotenks (post) = 22,500,000,000

Ssj2 Gotenks = 45,000,000,000

Ssj3 Goku = 48,000,000,000

Ssj3 Goku after ROSAT = 60,000,000,000

Ssj3 Gotenks = 180,000,000,000
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Goku above Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks? How? Goku flat out said Gotenks would be stronger than him.
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Because the Boo saga is stupid. I don't believe Toriyama had multipliers in mind but I certainly don't believe Toriyama thinks Super Boo, Gotenks and Gohan are all hundreds of times stronger than his main protagonist. Stronger yes, but not hundreds of times.

If you want my head canon for it, Goku wasn't simply talking about power, Gotenks can actually fight as a ssj and ssj2, Goku almost passes out using ssj3 for like a minute, that sort of strength is kind of hard to actually use.
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I will give you that the Buu arc is dumb and inconsistent. As long as you still have pre Super Saiyan Gotenks above Fat Buu, isn't the biggest deal imo.
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Goku wins the first round, maybe puts up a fight in the second round, but he gets squashed in the third. I don't use traditional multipliers for fusions (or at least Gotenks) because while that's fine and dandy for the regular Saiyans, the narrative doesn't really support (or contradict, admittedly) Gotenks and the upper echelon being hundreds or thousands of times stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. I don't have a problem with that if you use the standard multipliers for Gotenks and company, but when I'm reading the story, I don't get that feeling at all.

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