Dragon Ball Super: Chapter 37

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Dragon Ball Super: Chapter 37
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 19 2018, 01:20 PM Post #1
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Leaks have begun. Spoiler: click to toggle Apparently Berserk Kale is strong enough to body Golden Freeza, which is kinda irritating, TBH. Not for power scaling reasons, I just like how it took a while for Freeza to be outclassed in the anime.
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Thiln	Jun 19 2018, 01:50 PM Post #2
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	Good grief! People were already scathingly incredulous about the feats and relative strength levels posited in the anime. It seems as though Toriyama and his protege have a radically different perspective on how characters measure up to one another. Somehow the anime comes out looking more conservative with the strength projections than the manga, at least when it comes to this contrived spike of power from Kale which can circumvent a multiplier gap that has to be rising into the millions. To be fair, we should maintain an attentive and patient attitude since these are just spoilers and we don't have the full picture yet. However, from an initial glance, it does not look promising. Edited by Thiln, Jun 19 2018, 01:50 PM.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 19 2018, 01:56 PM Post #3
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	I'm more put off by the fact that Super Saiyan Caulifla seems to goad Freeza into turning Gold. In the anime, Freeza's true form is supposed to be Super Saiyan God tier. If he's not here, that really throws a wrench in things regarding the events of Resurrection 'F'. If Freeza's true form is weaker than Super Saiyan Caulifla, surely his first form is well below Super Saiyan Gohan's was in during Resurrection 'F'. Here's hoping he turns Gold just to show off. EDIT: I'm hearing that Kale is stronger than SSGSS Goku, potentially SSGSS Complete. Kale even starts to bulk up at the end of the chapter, meaning she's probably going to get even stronger. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jun 19 2018, 04:12 PM.
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+ Pyrus	Jun 19 2018, 04:33 PM Post #4
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I knew there was a reason I loved the manga. 100% awesome chapter.
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+ Son-Goku	Jun 19 2018, 04:54 PM Post #5
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Golden Frieza looks great in the manga. Glad Kale looks less Brolyish, but she'd be better cut out all together.
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+ Clearin	Jun 19 2018, 06:55 PM Post #6
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	A lot of cool fighting in this chapter. It's nice to see Freeza actually fights the U6 Saiyans this time. I'm also a bigger fan of how the manga handles Kale, by making her seem somewhat like a prodigy in base who already surpasses SSj Cabba and Caulifla. Also glad they skipped the whole Broly-stage for Kale and went straight to her own unique design. Toyotaro really using a lot of rocks in this chapter.



+ Saiyan Paladin	Jun 19 2018, 06:57 PM Post #7
Posts: 1,920 Group: Elite Member Member #10,232 Joined: September 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Kai, Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Firefox, Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Berserk	ThePrinceOfSaiyans Jun 19 2018, 01:56 PM I'm more put off by the fact that Super Saiyan Caulifla seems to goad Freeza into turning Gold. In the anime, Freeza's true form is supposed to be Super Saiyan God tier. If he's not here, that really throws a wrench in things regarding the events of Resurrection 'F'. If Freeza's true form is weaker than Super Saiyan Caulifla, surely his first form is well below Super Saiyan Gohan's was in during Resurrection 'F'. Here's hoping he turns Gold just to show off. EDIT: I'm hearing that Kale is stronger than SSGSS Goku, potentially SSGSS Complete. Kale even starts to bulk up at the end of the chapter, meaning she's probably going to get even stronger. Freeza's true form in the anime isn't close to SSG tier. Freeza turned Golden to beat SS2 Cabba. SSG Goku also said Freeza's kick tickled when he kicked SSG Goku back inbounds and apologized for being rough. I was not expecting Kale to trounce Golden Freeza. I do like seeing Freeza fight the U6 Saiyans though. Hopefully Vegeta fights one of them too. I don't like the way the anime handled the U6 Saiyans. Edited by Saiyan Paladin, Jun 19 2018, 06:59 PM.



+ Clearin	Jun 19 2018, 06:59 PM Post #8
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Base Goku was stronger than white form Freeza in the movie, so I don't see how SSj Caulifla being stronger than him is a big deal.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 19 2018, 07:00 PM Post #9
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Freeza then said he shouldn't have wasted stamina on Cabba. We know Dyspo can keep up with Super Saiyan God, and Freeza is around as strong as Dyspo. Clearin Base Goku was stronger than white form Freeza in the movie, so I don't see how SSj Caulifla being stronger than him is a big deal. We don't see that in the manga. Goku could have fought as a Super Saiyan God, we don't know. There's also the possibility of Saiyan Beyond God, so... The problem with Super Saiyan Caulifla being stronger than Freeza's true form is that it bloats the scaling for everyone. If base Cabba is equal to base Vegeta, and base Vegeta is stronger than Freeza's true form, who's first form is stronger than Super Saiyan Gohan, that would mean base Cabba is way stronger than Super Saiyan Gohan. If that's how it works, it's how it works, but I much prefer the 2-base approach. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jun 19 2018, 07:08 PM.
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+ Saiyan Paladin	Jun 19 2018, 07:04 PM Post #10
Posts: 1,920 Group: Elite Member Member #10,232 Joined: September 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Kai, Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Firefox, Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Berserk	Hopefully this chapter includes some humor like chapter 36 did. Though I doubt Toyotaro will top the Krillin/18/Ribrianne thing, and Beerus thinking Ribrianne is cute.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 19 2018, 07:29 PM Post #11
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	"Read" the entire chapter. Yeah, Super Saiyan Caulifla is slightly stronger than Freeza's true form. Freeza's true form does manage to keep and pressure her. After Freeza evolves, base Kale jumps in and manages to land cheep shots because of how fast she is, allowing Caulifla to get some hits in. And yes, "Berserk" Kale is stronger than SSGSS Complete Goku. The scaling feels really whack. Let's lay it out. Base Vegeta(U6 Arc) ~ Base Cabba(U6 Arc) >~ True Form Freeza(RF Arc) Super Saiyan Caulifla >~ True Form Freeza Base Kale >/~ Super Saiyan Caulifla SSGSS Complete Goku > Golden Freeza Berserk Kale >~ SSGSS Complete Goku Berserk Kale is also seen powering up at the end, so she'll be much stronger than SSGSS Complete Goku when all is said and done.
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+ Pyrus	Jun 19 2018, 09:08 PM Post #12
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Nice to see Toyotaro following the tradition of making the latest transformation obsolete in the following saga. Completed Blue was able to match a fusion tier character who could stomp individual normal Blue fighters with ease, but now we've got Hit being on par with it, Jiren obviously being far stronger, and Berserk Kale being stronger (when she was arguably only God tier in the anime). I'm interested in the mindset behind making Kale so strong. I don't hate it actually. I hated the anime's approach of changing her strength every appearance, but it seems the manga is sticking to one thing.
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+ Green	Jun 19 2018, 09:20 PM Post #13
Flashy Thing! Posts: 5,436 Group: Legend Member #1,181 Joined: February 25, 2006 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Fire fox Favourite Manga Gantz	I'm not liking this but I'll wait a few chapters to see how it plays out.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 19 2018, 09:27 PM Post #14
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Pyrus Jun 19 2018, 09:08 PM Nice to see Toyotaro following the tradition of making the latest transformation obsolete in the following saga. Completed Blue was able to match a fusion tier character who could stomp individual normal Blue fighters with ease, but now we've got Hit being on par with it, Jiren obviously being far stronger, and Berserk Kale being stronger (when she was arguably only God tier in the anime). I'm interested in the mindset behind making Kale so strong. I don't hate it actually. I hated the anime's approach of changing her strength every appearance, but it seems the manga is sticking to one thing. I mean, it's established early on that Goku can suppress himself to even Kuririn's level with Blue, so it's whatever as far as I'm concerned. We know for sure that at best she's weaker than Super Saiyan God. That said, I too don't really have a problem with Kale's strength. Freeza's lack of strength is what bothers me, lol.
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Topographic Oceans	Jun 19 2018, 09:54 PM Post #15
Posts: 1,788 Group: Member Member #10,681 Joined: January 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Action Comics Favourite Manga Detective Comics	I'm assuming that Kale will remain an ultimately pointless character, regardless of how strong she is. In the anime, this stupid female Broly plotline culminated in Goku's battle with Kefla, a character who was essentially just a powered-up Caulifla with none of Kale's personality traits. She's still just there for the people who think it's really neat that Dragon Ball now has a canon Broly, unless Toyotaro changes some of the major story beats. Either way, I don't see how this character can be salvaged. Edited by Topographic Oceans, Jun 19 2018, 09:56 PM.
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