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Ssj4 gogeta vs dbs.
Topic Started: Jun 17 2018, 04:00 PM (2,317 Views)
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Jun 28 2018, 07:39 PM
B-but Oob is in the manga... he's not a GT-exclusive character...

Although now I'm not so sure if this "GT takes place after Super" thing was ever serious.
Actually, I think Super does happen before GT.

Vegeta vows to achieve Ultra instinct, based on Super's end.
He does achieve it, but.. When Baby takes control of him! It turned his hair silver; same what UI did. UI was introduced in Super, but it was used in GT therefore GT happens after Super.

Beerus could be explained that, either Goku and Vegeta surpassed him, which made him irrelevant power wise. So it doesn't make sense to always mention a weakling.

They don't use Super Saiyan Blue, because let's face it, Gold is a way better color than Blue. Therefore they use SSJ 1 or 2 or 3 But never god or blue.

Also Kaioshin and Kibito fused for the lolz.
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Xeno goku timeline is the best timeline :P you get God and ssj4 and a cool new outfit with power pole. Best of all worlds
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Jun 28 2018, 08:10 PM
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Jun 28 2018, 04:45 PM
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Jun 28 2018, 02:54 PM
Nobody seems to deny Super and DB being in the same continuity despite all of the contradictions Super causes...
Like what?
Like namek never showing up in GT
Er, Namek does show up in GT. They use the Namekian Dragon Balls to restore the Earth after it blows up due to the Black-Star Dragon Balls.
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That was new namek. Namek doesn't exist in GT
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Jun 28 2018, 08:19 PM.
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Jun 28 2018, 08:14 PM
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Jun 28 2018, 07:39 PM
B-but Oob is in the manga... he's not a GT-exclusive character...

Although now I'm not so sure if this "GT takes place after Super" thing was ever serious.
Actually, I think Super does happen before GT.

Vegeta vows to achieve Ultra instinct, based on Super's end.
He does achieve it, but.. When Baby takes control of him! It turned his hair silver; same what UI did. UI was introduced in Super, but it was used in GT therefore GT happens after Super.

Beerus could be explained that, either Goku and Vegeta surpassed him, which made him irrelevant power wise. So it doesn't make sense to always mention a weakling.

They don't use Super Saiyan Blue, because let's face it, Gold is a way better color than Blue. Therefore they use SSJ 1 or 2 or 3 But never god or blue.

Also Kaioshin and Kibito fused for the lolz.
This is a bold new perspective.

I think it might be evidence of real time travel. The producers of GT hopped into the future to see how Super would play out. That's why GT and Super fit together so perfectly even though Super was only released twenty years after GT ended.
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Jun 28 2018, 08:18 PM
Notaka
Jun 28 2018, 08:14 PM
Topographic Oceans
Jun 28 2018, 07:39 PM
B-but Oob is in the manga... he's not a GT-exclusive character...

Although now I'm not so sure if this "GT takes place after Super" thing was ever serious.
Actually, I think Super does happen before GT.

Vegeta vows to achieve Ultra instinct, based on Super's end.
He does achieve it, but.. When Baby takes control of him! It turned his hair silver; same what UI did. UI was introduced in Super, but it was used in GT therefore GT happens after Super.

Beerus could be explained that, either Goku and Vegeta surpassed him, which made him irrelevant power wise. So it doesn't make sense to always mention a weakling.

They don't use Super Saiyan Blue, because let's face it, Gold is a way better color than Blue. Therefore they use SSJ 1 or 2 or 3 But never god or blue.

Also Kaioshin and Kibito fused for the lolz.
This is a bold new perspective.

I think it might be evidence of real time travel. The producers of GT hopped into the future to see how Super would play out. That's why GT and Super fit together so perfectly even though Super was only released twenty years after GT ended.
Boy, this is the dragon ball versus section and not the deep discussion one

but you might be on to something 🤔
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I'll attempt to make GT and Super stories work

Old Kai did say that it was a waste of power when supreme Kai and kibito defused so maybe they thought it was best to fuse back

Pilaf gang could've snapped and finally gotten ahold of the dragon balls again after spending so much time with the main cast and wished to be "older" which the dragon understood as making the too old which is why they're like that in GT

Beerus was surpassed with mastered ultra instinct so obviously over 5 years later goku has gotten way stronger so he's not relevant anymore.

Goku doesn't use God or blue anymore because he's been working on being able to tap into most of the gold forms' power in base form which is the why the multiplier in GT is only about 2x base power. Maybe he finds this more efficient because mastering blue is too hard.

Tapping into ultra instinct according to goku was an accident and beerus even with millions of years hasn't been able to complete it so maybe goku never tapped into it again

Maybe he lost the red form after turning into a kid

Cooler was off screen so that's why he has a cameo in GT
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Jun 28 2018, 08:30 PM
I'll attempt to make GT and Super stories work

Old Kai did say that it was a waste of power when supreme Kai and kibito defused so maybe they thought it was best to fuse back

Pilaf gang could've snapped and finally gotten ahold of the dragon balls again after spending so much time with the main cast and wished to be "older" which the dragon understood as making the too old which is why they're like that in GT

Beerus was surpassed with mastered ultra instinct so obviously over 5 years later goku has gotten way stronger so he's not relevant anymore.

Goku doesn't use God or blue anymore because he's been working on being able to tap into most of the gold forms' power in base form which is the why the multiplier in GT is only about 2x base power. Maybe he finds this more efficient because mastering blue is too hard.

Tapping into ultra instinct according to goku was an accident and beerus even with millions of years hasn't been able to complete it so maybe goku never tapped into it again

Maybe he lost the red form after turning into a kid

Cooler was off screen so that's why he has a cameo in GT
I take back everything about Super stomping GT. It's the opposite now.
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Jun 28 2018, 08:25 PM
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Jun 28 2018, 08:18 PM
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Jun 28 2018, 08:14 PM
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Jun 28 2018, 07:39 PM
B-but Oob is in the manga... he's not a GT-exclusive character...

Although now I'm not so sure if this "GT takes place after Super" thing was ever serious.
Actually, I think Super does happen before GT.

Vegeta vows to achieve Ultra instinct, based on Super's end.
He does achieve it, but.. When Baby takes control of him! It turned his hair silver; same what UI did. UI was introduced in Super, but it was used in GT therefore GT happens after Super.

Beerus could be explained that, either Goku and Vegeta surpassed him, which made him irrelevant power wise. So it doesn't make sense to always mention a weakling.

They don't use Super Saiyan Blue, because let's face it, Gold is a way better color than Blue. Therefore they use SSJ 1 or 2 or 3 But never god or blue.

Also Kaioshin and Kibito fused for the lolz.
This is a bold new perspective.

I think it might be evidence of real time travel. The producers of GT hopped into the future to see how Super would play out. That's why GT and Super fit together so perfectly even though Super was only released twenty years after GT ended.
Boy, this is the dragon ball versus section and not the deep discussion one

but you might be on to something 🤔
I'll just make one last statement on the subject. Toei is an organization secretly dedicated to studying time travel. Their animation department serves as both a facade and as a means of acquiring funds for their research.
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Super Baby Vegeta 1 confirmed God tier!

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Super Baby Vegeta 1 confirmed God tier!

4/5 dont work there bud.
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Baby was already in Ultra Instinct mode, lowering the amount of Saiyans required for him to ascend even further into godhood.
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Jun 28 2018, 08:48 PM
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Super Baby Vegeta 1 confirmed God tier!

4/5 dont work there bud.
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Jun 28 2018, 08:49 PM
Baby was already in Ultra Instinct mode, lowering the amount of Saiyans required for him to ascend even further into godhood.
"Ascend even further into godhood"

You fool, Baby Vegeta is already above the gods.
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So since Super Baby Vegeta 1 was already stated by Goku as being a Ki unlike any other he'd felt (meaning he's minimum stronger than Limit Broken Full Power Jiren, assuming you don't count Goku as being able to sense Angels/Zen-Oh), then that must mean that Super Baby Vegeta 2 has the same multiplier as SSJ3 --> SSG.

Wow! He might be on par with 10% Beerus now!
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