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Super Saiyan 2 Kafla vs. Champa
Topic Started: Jun 13 2018, 08:13 PM (1,512 Views)
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Can the fused Saiyan beat her own universe's God of Destruction? If not, could she do it with Super Saiyan 3?
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Champa wins.

Champa: 900

Super Saiyan 2 Kafla: 16
-Super Saiyan 3: 64
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Yeah she definitely wins this as a Super Saiyan 2.
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Jun 13 2018, 08:41 PM
Champa wins.

Champa: 900

Super Saiyan 2 Kafla: 16
-Super Saiyan 3: 64
Where is Jiren then?
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Champa wins easily
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I think Champa stomps.
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You could give Kefla Super Saiyan 4 and she still loses, in my opinion. It would take SSJG at a minimum for her to defeat Champa, who is comparable to his brother.
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If one is to take Champa equal to Beerus, I already have Kefla at his level.

Champa wins because of the albeit small power gap, his better fighting experience, hakai and the potara's time limit. SSJ3 Kefla would stomp him though, and probably even Whis/Vados while at it.
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Why are people underestimating Kefla so much? She was stronger than Goku when he first went Ultra Instinct who was fighting about even with Jiren when his power was stated to be above that of a destroyer.
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Maybe she didn't seem to be impressive to them.
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Jun 13 2018, 11:37 PM
Why are people underestimating Kefla so much? She was stronger than Goku when he first went Ultra Instinct who was fighting about even with Jiren when his power was stated to be above that of a destroyer.
"A" destroyer? There's no equilibrium standard for what the strength of an Hakaishin is like. We know that Sidra is the miminum and he couldn't have been that much stronger than Golden Freeza since the issue of whether he could win or not posed as such a contentious question.
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Champa wins.

Champa: 900

Super Saiyan 2 Kafla: 16
-Super Saiyan 3: 64
Where is Jiren then?
Jiren: 6,000

UI Goku: 6,000
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SSJ2 Kefla beats the everliving s*** out of Champa. She is noted to be above UI Goku (initial), who was on par with Jiren (suppressed). The latter two entities are directly stated to be above that of the Gods.

We don't have to like it, but statements are all that really matters in Dragonball; if someone is stated to be stronger than someone else, we can only accept it as canon, regardless of the plotholes or inconsistencies.
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Why are people underestimating Kefla so much? She was stronger than Goku when he first went Ultra Instinct who was fighting about even with Jiren when his power was stated to be above that of a destroyer.
"A" destroyer? There's no equilibrium standard for what the strength of an Hakaishin is like. We know that Sidra is the miminum and he couldn't have been that much stronger than Golden Freeza since the issue of whether he could win or not posed as such a contentious question.
A destroyer that was stronger than Beerus is what we were given and the destroy is Belmod. Beerus is said to be a bit stronger than Champa. So with all that, your answer is right there.
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She's above UI Omen whom is above the Gods. She stated that she could blow away a universe in one shot, so it's quite obvious where her power is from a narrative standpoint.

Champa doesn't stand a chance at beating her. Champa charges up his Destruction Energy like Toppo's final attack against Vegeta and Kefla easily overpowers it and vaporizes him.
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