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Jun 12 2018, 11:06 PM Post #1 |
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Apparent these characters can destroy goku. Link: https://www.thegamer.com/video-game-characters-whod-destroy-goku-and-some-whod-get-destroyed/4/ |
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| jason vorhees | Jun 17 2018, 12:59 AM Post #46 |
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as expected double standards again nothing you ever says is meant to be taken seriously.thanks for proving me point. no s*** they can be defeated but they can't be killed according to the game mechanics. oh double standards again so in resident evil we won't agree that sone doors can't be broken down but we will agree that mario can one punch others due to game mechanics. Thanks for proving my point again nothing you says is meant to be taken seriously if we agree on mario we have to agree for db xenoverse and resident evil too.but you of course are the biggest hypocrite and as always has double standards oh and goku>>>>> mario goku kills mario with his presence alone |
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| + Steve | Jun 17 2018, 09:12 AM Post #47 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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This is almost warn level ridiculousness. Calm the hell down and act like a normal person, good lord. There's no need to be so hostile and angry about a what-if fight between fictional characters and "No ur wrong" is not an argument. By your logic here Hitler is a video game character. Goku is not a video game character. If you want to make a spite thread specifically with Goku as a video game character you're welcome to do that but that's such a stupid argument anyway because they're all weaker in games as I previously outlined. Actually say something that makes sense and actually counter points, not sure how old you are but you're acting like a 12 year old here. Because y'know, I can say "ur wrong" too, let us just endlessly say that at each other then because that's a reasonable and intelligent discussion. Still no counter to Pyramid Head also. Games win. |
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| superperfectnerd | Jun 17 2018, 09:32 AM Post #48 |
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My argument would be that feats from Mario's life (even in game) being automatically effective against Goku is a false equivalency. Just because the star power up one shots Bowser, doesn't mean Goku would feel it. Even in game there is no Goku for Mario to have ever tested the star against. It's like saying because I can cut paper with a butter knife, I can also cut steel with a butter knife even though I've never tried to.
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| + Steve | Jun 17 2018, 12:31 PM Post #49 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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But I could also just say that Ki doesn't exist in real life so who's to say it could blow up anything? By that reasoning I could beat Goku in a fight because maybe Ki doesn't do anything in this world. It's not false equivalence at all, it's just all you can do unless like as said before you're just choosing to invent how powerful a character is, which is bias. Face it, if you were to give Mario "realistic" stats absolutely nobody on here would have him even beating Hercule. Nobody would ever dare to make any character stand up to a Dragon Ball character no matter how much sense it would make. He's not a realistic character and he comes from one of the most fantastical worlds ever conceived, why should any real world laws apply. It only makes sense to abandon stuff like that when people have similar abilities that you'd have to go in to insane lolcalcs to compare. Like Dante vs Bayonetta, they can both slow down time so how could you decide who's faster without just picking your favourite or going ridiculously in depth with calcs? The simple answer is slow time is irrelevant there. |
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| + Pointer | Jun 17 2018, 01:12 PM Post #50 |
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And yet he ( pyramid head ) was dealt rather easily by in game chaeacters of the respective frenchise who were also weaker than nappa |
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| + Steve | Jun 17 2018, 01:24 PM Post #51 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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You literally didn't read anything I wrote or anything about the character. He is quite literally the embodiment of an insurmountable challenge, ergo he is always stronger than you, which means he's stronger than anyone he torments by default and he doesn't go away no matter how many times you put him down unless you get over whatever landed him as your enemy. You can't beat him with lasers and s*** because if he didn't just have them anyway he's stronger than anything you can do without outside help, i.e the guns people find in Silent Hill. Unless there's a special gun in Dragon Ball that does more damage than energy blasts there's no way anyone feasibly beats someone stronger than them without any help what so ever. I swear people would argue against Dragon Ball characters losing against the force of Death itself in a vs match. |
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| superperfectnerd | Jun 17 2018, 02:48 PM Post #52 |
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The star power up works on Bowser in a boss battle but wouldn't kill an NPC character helping Mario. You can't run up to Toad all star powered and kill him. So if we're using game mechanics as a feat - which is fine - then the star power up is inconsistent. |
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| Topographic Oceans | Jun 17 2018, 03:01 PM Post #53 |
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Here's someone who would defeat Goku: golden age Superman. |
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| + Pointer | Jun 17 2018, 04:07 PM Post #54 |
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What if goku teleports him to space or any other unusual environment. ? |
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| + Steve | Jun 17 2018, 06:23 PM Post #55 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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But you just explained that "NPC character helping Mario" It's not inconsistent, it just doesn't hurt enemies. Goku is obviously an enemy in the context of a fight therefore it would.
Wouldn't do anything, Pyramid Head is basically a concept and will only go away when you get over your mental stigma i.e in 2 he represents the main character's lust. Goku would probably have to get over his insane thirst for battle to make Pyramid Head go away, I'd say that's the main mental issue he has in life. Pyramid Head is a physical challenge you can't beat so against an opponent with special powers he'd probably have his own or in any case he'd just be faster and stronger than Goku, no matter how many Super Saiyan forms Goku randomly unlocked more and more power isn't an answer. FTL Pyramid Head with his huge a** sword is a scary thought... If we go with lore then Dante could win this too provided he has Yamato, Goku would obviously underestimate him but Yamato can cut anything that isn't imbued with similar Demonic energy, it cuts through space and at a distance. Cocky Goku plus Quicksilver slow time could get Dante a win. Gameplay wise obviously Dante can't do much. |
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| jason vorhees | Jun 18 2018, 02:12 AM Post #56 |
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because you are the biggest hypocrite here.with your double standards. If you gonna keep acting like this stay away from debates.you can't agree for one side and not for the other.so going by your logic of game mechanics living tribunal, galactus, sttgl can't completely kill goku from xenoverse games . fact if am acting like a 12 year old then you must be acting like a 5 year old. no one really cares about debates on fictional characters but it gets annoying when you have others ruining debates with double standards because then there are no points of debating Edited by jason vorhees, Jun 18 2018, 02:26 AM.
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| + Steve | Jun 18 2018, 08:22 AM Post #57 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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...how a versus match goes depends on the rules set within it, if there are none you have to think of the most reasonable ones. When it's massively open to interpretation, there can't be only one ruleset hence why I argue for multiple. You are deciding it can only function one way which is just ridiculous. Not even sure how I'm a hypocrite, please explain that one. And why do you keep dwelling on Goku in Xenoverse? Seriously, that's such a nonsense point. People in Xenoverse enter a KO state, even if they don't actually die in game they still lose so...no? That's overall game logic anyway not an actual mechanic, can you imagine how stupid it would be if fighting game characters just died and you could never use them again? A game mechanic is that Booker in BioShock Infinite can't die so long as he has money to respawn with because that's actually an established thing, you're just deciding Xenoverse implies everyone is immortal. You've went completely off the point and you haven't countered a single thing I've said literally all you've done is say "No you're wrong" and say the same thing back at me, honestly did you quite seriously just say "No but you're a five your old!" while calling me childish? Seriously counter a single point I've said. How does Goku beat Pyramid Head? At this point I'm not going to respond to anything that isn't an actual response because this is just sad now, I'm not sure how you could even consider this a debate when you're not even discussing anything or proving a single point. "You're a hypocrite" "muh double standards!" aren't arguments. |
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| jason vorhees | Jun 19 2018, 02:02 AM Post #58 |
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double standards .you are the absolute worst hypocrite on this site.you will agree for mario but not for other fiction.stoop debating you are embarassing yourself |
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| Sam | Jun 19 2018, 01:06 PM Post #59 |
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.
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Stay respectful guys, if you feel like you can't respond to someone else or they're being unreasonable, turn the other cheek. If it escalates, report them. I realize we're gonna disagree with each other here - especially in Other Versus - but don't regard each other with such passive aggressiveness. It's unnecessary. If you can't debate with someone, do your best to ignore them. We're all mature enough here ![]() Just a friendly reminder, carry on.
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| + Steve | Jun 19 2018, 02:43 PM Post #60 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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Dialga is another Pokémon that could beat Goku since it has access to time control and can do whatever it wants with that. Can't think of many others with absolute abilities like that at the minute but there's quite a few hax Pokémon indeed, on the lore side that is. Some descriptions are crazy like one says Machamp can lift mountains like wut. |
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