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These videogame characters can destroy Goku apparently
Topic Started: Jun 12 2018, 11:06 PM (1,365 Views)
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Apparent these characters can destroy goku. Link: https://www.thegamer.com/video-game-characters-whod-destroy-goku-and-some-whod-get-destroyed/4/

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Jun 14 2018, 01:37 PM
Most of the abilities you guys mentioned only work in their game, if Mario was Star Mario or whatever and he tried to take out Superman or Hulk, you really think that would work? Stop kidding yourselves, y'all still hating cause Goku surpasses a LOT of these characters as of late. Especially you Steve, you're the worst offender.


Ah, how predictable. Solid Snake calling us offenders as well as claiming we're doing this because we're hating on Goku for being stronger. You have history, Snake, regarding Goku and how much you like to hype him up as opposed to everybody else, for some strange reason. I could say you're the one hating on other characters just because they can beat Goku, but I'm not you so I'll go along and continue with the topic of this thread...

And yes, that would work, following the logic in Mario games, or else how would you apply the logic as said in the article, which you likely didn't read? We've seen it happen in pretty much every game that star is in, there's absolutely nothing it cannot kill in one hit. And how would Mewtwo's mind powers not win here? Goku's never shown resistance to anything like what Mewtwo's packing.

Can you at least admit there are some in that list that could beat him?
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Jun 14 2018, 01:48 PM
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Jun 14 2018, 01:37 PM
Most of the abilities you guys mentioned only work in their game, if Mario was Star Mario or whatever and he tried to take out Superman or Hulk, you really think that would work? Stop kidding yourselves, y'all still hating cause Goku surpasses a LOT of these characters as of late. Especially you Steve, you're the worst offender.


Ah, how predictable. Solid Snake calling us offenders as well as claiming we're doing this because we're hating on Goku for being stronger. You have history, Snake, regarding Goku and how much you like to hype him up as opposed to everybody else, for some strange reason. I could say you're the one hating on other characters just because they can beat Goku, but I'm not you so I'll go along and continue with the topic of this thread...

And yes, that would work, following the logic in Mario games, or else how would you apply the logic as said in the article, which you likely didn't read? We've seen it happen in pretty much every game that star is in, there's absolutely nothing it cannot kill in one hit. And how would Mewtwo's mind powers not win here? Goku's never shown resistance to anything like what Mewtwo's packing.

Can you at least admit there are some in that list that could beat him?
Well hey, in the Smash Bros games it doesn't allow you to one shot :p
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What ever happened to useing feats and statements in battles and not game mechanics lol.
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Don't you guys know in Pokemon the fastest one goes first? So obviously Goku isn't losing to Mewtwo.
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Jun 14 2018, 01:37 PM
Most of the abilities you guys mentioned only work in their game, if Mario was Star Mario or whatever and he tried to take out Superman or Hulk, you really think that would work? Stop kidding yourselves, y'all still hating cause Goku surpasses a LOT of these characters as of late. Especially you Steve, you're the worst offender.


Ah, how predictable. Solid Snake calling us offenders as well as claiming we're doing this because we're hating on Goku for being stronger. You have history, Snake, regarding Goku and how much you like to hype him up as opposed to everybody else, for some strange reason. I could say you're the one hating on other characters just because they can beat Goku, but I'm not you so I'll go along and continue with the topic of this thread...

And yes, that would work, following the logic in Mario games, or else how would you apply the logic as said in the article, which you likely didn't read? We've seen it happen in pretty much every game that star is in, there's absolutely nothing it cannot kill in one hit. And how would Mewtwo's mind powers not win here? Goku's never shown resistance to anything like what Mewtwo's packing.

Can you at least admit there are some in that list that could beat him?
I didn't have to read it, Mario and freaking Mewtwo ain't beating Goku. That's point blank.

And I have no problem with Goku losing, he can't beat certain characters like Anti-Moniter and probably can give Odin a fight, but he ain't losing to no damn Mario.
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I gotta agree with Solid Snake. The idea of Mario beating Goku is ridiculous.
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Jun 14 2018, 03:26 PM
What ever happened to useing feats and statements in battles and not game mechanics lol.
Because these are literally video game characters?


Alright then I guess we should use game feats for Goku.

In that case in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Kid Goku can beat SSj4 Gogeta so I guess Goku is all round a weakling? In that case every character here beats him.


Video game feats and mechanics are how video game characters work, if Mario has an ability that makes him one shot anything then he's effectively One Punch Man, no matter how much you want to disagree.
Sure, Mario is just some retired old plumber in actuality but within game rules he's practically a God.

As for things not working outside of game logic...what other logic do these characters have for a vs battle? That's some straight nonsense.

Might as well say Goku is weak in Code Geass because Ki doesn't exist there and without that even Lelouch stomps him without his Geass.


Why are people so desperate to have Dragon Ball characters win everything to the point of ignoring all logical rules that ought to be applied in a match up?
If someone in fictional media has the power to one hit kill anything, then they have that power in any what-if match up. Simple as that.
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What ever happened to useing feats and statements in battles and not game mechanics lol.
Because these are literally video game characters?


Alright then I guess we should use game feats for Goku.

In that case in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 Kid Goku can beat SSj4 Gogeta so I guess Goku is all round a weakling? In that case every character here beats him.


Video game feats and mechanics are how video game characters work, if Mario has an ability that makes him one shot anything then he's effectively One Punch Man, no matter how much you want to disagree.
Sure, Mario is just some retired old plumber in actuality but within game rules he's practically a God.

As for things not working outside of game logic...what other logic do these characters have for a vs battle? That's some straight nonsense.

Might as well say Goku is weak in Code Geass because Ki doesn't exist there and without that even Lelouch stomps him without his Geass.


Why are people so desperate to have Dragon Ball characters win everything to the point of ignoring all logical rules that ought to be applied in a match up?
If someone in fictional media has the power to one hit kill anything, then they have that power in any what-if match up. Simple as that.
So im guessing fallout 4 character all round will dominate the dragonborn. Game mechanics say so but lore of the games story says other wise. Or how about Borderlands series i guess they cant ever die because of the new you stations. even tho story and lore say otherwise. You cant use game mechanics to argue a game character you use there story and lore and power scale from that not the actual play style of the game. If you can show mario killing something as strong as goku with the star anyway then youd have a arguing point but as far as my knowledge goes he has not used it on someone that can bust a planet, galaxy, universe and killed them. Hell the star never killed bowser he is always back hell lava did more damage to bowser then the star ever has.
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Also many cross universe characters powers dont work. So yes goku would lose there. Infinity gauntlet dose not work in other universes neither dose the speed force if i remember correctly.

No one here i desperate for goku or dragonball to win its just flawed logic to use game mechanics and not the story
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Well i dont know about others, but I'm definitely not trying my damndest to have Goku win against all these video game characters. All I'm saying is there's no reason to automatically believe that Mario's star power would work on Goku the same as it would enemies from his world.

Mewtwo on the other hand, that's more of an argument.
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What's Mewtwo's best feat for his psychic abilities?
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I don't know myself, but Goku has no signs of being strong against it.
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Jun 14 2018, 05:25 PM
So im guessing fallout 4 character all round will dominate the dragonborn. Game mechanics say so but lore of the games story says other wise. Or how about Borderlands series i guess they cant ever die because of the new you stations. even tho story and lore say otherwise. You cant use game mechanics to argue a game character you use there story and lore and power scale from that not the actual play style of the game. If you can show mario killing something as strong as goku with the star anyway then youd have a arguing point but as far as my knowledge goes he has not used it on someone that can bust a planet, galaxy, universe and killed them. Hell the star never killed bowser he is always back hell lava did more damage to bowser then the star ever has.
You realize you answered your own point there?

Gameplay and lore are the two ways to take it.

Both the gameplay AND the lore support Mario being an invincible God with a starman so...yeah, that's not an effective argument.
Gameplay wise the Sole Survivor absolutely can just shoot the Dragonborn in the head or nuke them. Or just take a s*** ton of drugs and be even stronger.


You don't have to be shown Mario killing something of X strength because it's irrelevant, if something has an absolute effect you can't just decide it doesn't because you want your character to win.
You can't decide that Accelerator wouldn't be able to stop Goku's organs working because you don't want Goku to lose even though Accelerator can mess with him at an atomic level without even trying. That's his power.

Not sure what this fixation on gameplay and lore is when that's all there is for video game characters...you're basically saying we have to invent how powerful these characters outside their games which is silly because of course you're just always going to make them weaker than who you want to win.


How does Goku survive the Death spell from Final Fantasy?
Does he survive instant death magic just because he can blow stuff up? No he just dies, that is how it works.
Or Stop/Petrify.
In Final Fantasy the spell Roulette stops everyone from doing anything until it picks a person then they die, anyone who fought Goku would have a 50/50 chance of killing him in that case.

You can't argue that he would just suddenly break rules or that game characters who only exist within rules suddenly wouldn't have those rules applied to them.
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Lmao.

We take lore not gameplay simple as that because gameplay dose not count as feats in any game what so ever. As they are not accurate and at many times vary greatly from game to game. I mean look at marios Cutscenes show him being touched but we know if he is touched gameplay wise he dies by a mushroom that can walk thats it.

So if you want to take gameplay wise for mario he dies from the start before he can even find a star. As goku will touch him and he will die.

You cn argue those characters could kill goku im npt arguing them a i dont know them. No one here is saying there are not people that can kill goku im sure many of use know at least one that could. But you sit here and assume that we are some goku fan boys that no one can beat him when thats not the case which makes you look ignorant.
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Jun 14 2018, 07:19 AM
The difference being Madara isn't limited by game mechanics because he's not from a game that follows game logic.

It's not NLF, stop using terms and throwing away names without knowing any of them, you're the only one treating Goku like some sort of limitlessly powerhouse who can't be stopped by any of these guys. That is not what I'm saying with Mario in the slightest.
you are just making excuses with your pathetic rumbling.goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mario

i think you have some reading comprehension problem.i never said goku is more powerful than any of these guys.i only mentioned the ones who notaka was mentioning.
no you don't tell me i don't know what nlf is when you are the one who can't even understand the simplest idea what nlf is.

nlf is still nlf.

unless you agree in game mechanics mario can also beat the living tribunal then i disgress
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