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The 25th Tenkaichi Budokai goes uninterrupted...
Topic Started: May 27 2018, 04:02 PM (4,554 Views)
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Vegeta doesn't stand a chance without that majin boost though.
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May 27 2018, 09:20 PM
SSJ "Mighty Mask" can literally one shot everyone here simultaneously if he wanted. If the kids are allowed SSJ while the rest aren't, there is literally no way he can lose without disqualification and I feel that usage kind of undermines the entire point of having him in the tournament and having SSj in the first place.

Anyways:

1.) Krillin vs Punta
Obviously nothing changes here and Krillin wins.

2.) Kaioshin vs Piccolo
Same thing, the victory goes to Kaioshin, no real need to change it up here.

3.) Videl vs Spopovich
Again, no real reason to change it, Spopovich wins.

4.) Kibito vs Gohan
Kibito's pretty much going to lose and I dare say pretty badly too, Gohan wins.

5.) Mr. Satan vs No. 18
Since this is now a single match with more of the tournament on the line, I feel No. 18 has no need to hold back. Unless she's going to try and coerce Mr. Satan to give her some of his dirty cash, she's going to want to win this tournament...even if such a thing isn't necessarily possible. There's also the fact that No. 18 clearly has no real connections with Mr. Satan. I'm giving No. 18 the win here.

6.) Mighty Mask vs Killer
As we've noted already, Mighty Mask can pretty much win this entire tournament, a jobber isn't going to be a threat.

7.) Yamu vs Jewel
Again, you have a guy with increased power by Babidi and a jobber...Yamu Wins.

8.) Goku vs Vegeta
Goku is not only stronger but is simply an overall better and more skilled fighter too, Goku wins.


QUARTER-FINAL

1.) Krillin vs Shin
Needless to say, Krillin doesn't have a chance here.

2.)Spopovich vs Gohan
Congratulations Gohan...revenge is yours.

3.) Goku vs No. 18
Goku's already the superior one so he easily wins.


4.) Mighty Mask vs Yamu
Mighty Mask Crushes...obviously.


SEMI-FINAL

1.) Shin vs Gohan
Gohan takes Shin to town and frankly, even if you had Piccolo here, he'd still lose.

2.) Goku vs Mighty Mask
If Mighty Mask wasn't allowed to transform, it would certainly lead to Gou's victory but an SSJ Mighty Mask pretty much means his victory. The only way Goku can win is by some kind of disqualification and again, I feel that takes away the whole point.

FINAL

1.) Gohan vs Mighty Mask

So in a surprising twist, the lazy weak Gohan is the one who makes it up to the finals...though this is just by luck of the draw really. Again, if Mighty Mask couldn't use SSj, it would definitely lead to Gohan's victory but if this is going to be SSJ Mighty Mask, there's simply no way Gohan can win without certain requirements.

Overall I think Mighty Mask can easily take the tournament if he's allowed SSJ throughout the tournament. If not, than Goku is ultimately going to be the one to push up to victory.
I am pretty sure that with kaioken 20 goku could roast mighty mask in ssj besides
dont forget that they could barely fight back against 18 . Mighty mask is two ppl and they dont seem to coordinate their attacks that efficiently

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If piccolo would be stronger than the base saiyans . AT least vegeta would have s*** himself in terror when he witnessed that piccolo surrendered against shin. Thus is shall say the base saiyans ... at least vegeta and gokunare above piccolo in base. Otherwise either vegeta is too dumb or he was planning to use ssj either way or the other way. He was way too calm

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"I am the bone of my sword."

I feel like the entire point of "Base Saiyans" is that Goku, Vegeta and Gohan can't utilize excess power outside their natural base. Kaioken defeats that entire purpose if you're just going to boost your character up 10-20x for a match. Though one can just as easily argue that even Kaioken isn't enough for Goku to win, not to mention the severe amount of strain on the body.

Mighty Mask only struggled with No. 18 in base, once the kids went SSJ and fired off a pretty casual blast, she absolutely freaked out. It went from trying to beat Mighty Mask to just getting the kids disqualified by ousting them for who they are. But again, I feel a "disqualification" of such things in this fight defeats the entire purpose of of having Mighty Mask in it.

I'm fairly sure that even with a hindering costume or dead weight, nobody is going to be giving SSJ Mighty Mask much trouble if they aren't allowed to transform themselves.
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May 28 2018, 01:30 PM
I feel like the entire point of "Base Saiyans" is that Goku, Vegeta and Gohan can't utilize excess power outside their natural base. Kaioken defeats that entire purpose if you're just going to boost your character up 10-20x for a match. Though one can just as easily argue that even Kaioken isn't enough for Goku to win, not to mention the severe amount of strain on the body.

Mighty Mask only struggled with No. 18 in base, once the kids went SSJ and fired off a pretty casual blast, she absolutely freaked out. It went from trying to beat Mighty Mask to just getting the kids disqualified by ousting them for who they are. But again, I feel a "disqualification" of such things in this fight defeats the entire purpose of of having Mighty Mask in it.

I'm fairly sure that even with a hindering costume or dead weight, nobody is going to be giving SSJ Mighty Mask much trouble if they aren't allowed to transform themselves.
Remember how krillin tricked goku when they spared before the tournament of power ?

Goku would also outsmart mighty mask. Especially if he figure out that they are actually goten and trunks

Powerwise they are the strongest yeah. But it is a tournament with rules. So who knows
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Yeah, there's no way Mighty Mask would win without getting discovered.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Again, I feel disqualification defeats that purpose...then again...perhaps so does SSJ.

However, due to the brackets, even if Mighty Mask couldn't transform, he'd still get up to at least the Semi-Finals, most likely losing to Goku in the end.
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Especially since single clothes can not hide them against those who can sense ki.

Goku could figure it out that they are goten and trunks even if he doesnt open his eyes. Android 18 can not sense ki thats why the trick worked
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^Can't sense ki? Since when? It's their energy that can't be sensed, not the other way around.
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Well the Androids needed 16 to tell them how strong Piccolo and Cell were.
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Hmm, that's true. In the Goku and his friends return special, she was able to sense Tarble's ki though.
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May 28 2018, 12:10 AM
He and the others cannot feel either Kaioshin or Kibito's Ki, so they're left wondering exactly how powerful they are.
Then how Piccolo knew Kaioshin was stronger than him?
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May 28 2018, 04:18 PM
^Can't sense ki? Since when? It's their energy that can't be sensed, not the other way around.
Well i do remember thag in the anime they asked android 16 whenever they wanted to know who is there and how strong is somebody

Also in super 17 admitted that he cant sense ki

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May 28 2018, 06:07 PM
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May 28 2018, 12:10 AM
He and the others cannot feel either Kaioshin or Kibito's Ki, so they're left wondering exactly how powerful they are.
Then how Piccolo knew Kaioshin was stronger than him?
How did Ginyu and Freeza make estimates?
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May 28 2018, 04:39 PM
Hmm, that's true. In the Goku and his friends return special, she was able to sense Tarble's ki though.
No.17 reiterates in the ToP that they can't sense ki.

Piccolo wins the 25th TB.
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