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| Tweet Topic Started: May 25 2018, 08:39 PM (1,347 Views) | |
| Notaka | May 26 2018, 04:23 PM Post #16 |
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Hmm, maybe I'll concede then. Out of curiosity, how strong do you have him after his training? |
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| + Six Trails | May 26 2018, 04:26 PM Post #17 |
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I think he is slightly stronger than Goku in equal forms since he handles the Z Sword better. You could say he only increased his arm strength, but I don't really abide by that logic.
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| Goddess Ultimecia | May 26 2018, 04:41 PM Post #18 |
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Isn't this the same Elder Kaioshin that we don't take seriously because all of his warnings and ideas are played off as jokes and shows he's just some old coot that barely knows what he talks about? As well as over inflating his own sense of worth ever since Beerus showed up? |
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| + Six Trails | May 26 2018, 04:47 PM Post #19 |
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I don't really see what there is to not take seriously here. Because he's an "old coot" we should just...dismiss what he says? What has he ever actually done to diminish his credibility? He wasn't lying about his ability to unlock someone's potential, he knew about the Potara (which young Kaioshin, the one who's statement people are putting stock into, didn't), and in this case, no one goes against his word. There's hardly any reason not to take him seriously. Edited by Six Trails, May 26 2018, 04:57 PM.
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| superperfectnerd | May 27 2018, 01:03 PM Post #20 |
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I have base Vegetto weaker than ssj2 Goku. Super had Vados say fusion made the partakers tens of times stronger. Tens of times. Base Goku = 120,000,000 Base Vegetto = 9,000,000,000 Ultimate Gohan = 225,000,000,000 That's a big enough boost for me, otherwise it just gets ludicrous. Edited by superperfectnerd, May 27 2018, 02:11 PM.
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| + Six Trails | May 27 2018, 04:39 PM Post #21 |
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We also see Base Kafla is stronger than SSG Goku while Base Kale and Caulifla are weaker than Base Goku, so... |
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| superperfectnerd | May 27 2018, 07:50 PM Post #22 |
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Yeah but we all agree that base Kefla being that strong is contradictory to the implications previously that Vegetto < ssjg Goku. The fusion power seems to be all over the place in terms of feats but Vados' statement is "tens of times". Nothing is contradicted in the manga with Vegetto going straight to ssj to fight Boo by me having base Vegetto much weaker than Gohan because he never fights in base. |
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| + Six Trails | May 27 2018, 10:58 PM Post #23 |
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Well, Base Caulifla and Base Kale should be a lot stronger than Base Goku from BoG. The gap between Base and SSG just isn't as big as it used to be, the initial ritual seemingly closing the gap between the base and God forms. I don't think Kafla's strength necessarily contradicts anything. The "tens of times" statement is a little odd but I mean it's not the first thing in Super to make no sense. |
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| PF18 | May 30 2018, 02:54 AM Post #24 |
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SSJ3 Gohan loses in a close one. SSJ4 Gohan dominates wirhout even trying |
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| PF18 | May 30 2018, 03:03 AM Post #25 |
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Yeah but Goku's current boost from SSG doesnt yield the same as during boG. The boost is mostly reflected in the fact that he absorbed the power he gained. SSG Goku BoG>>SSJ3 Vegetto was very very heavily implied and i see no reason to invalidate it by this |
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| + Pointer | May 30 2018, 07:18 AM Post #26 |
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Somehow i feel base vegito is below ssj3 gotenks |
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| StrenuousSpider | May 30 2018, 07:43 AM Post #27 |
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Potaras Tens of times can mean pretty much anything lol. 20x-200x-2000x we dont know. Its the same way with dance but 24x-240x-2400 So i dont see how what vados said contradicts anything. |
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| Dankness Lava | May 30 2018, 06:34 PM Post #28 |
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Why would 200 or 2000 be represented as tens? That would be misrepresentation. |
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| StrenuousSpider | May 30 2018, 08:59 PM Post #29 |
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Tens of times meaning multiple tens. It can be 10 tens 100 tens 1000 tens and it would still fit under the tens of times. Its a way of saying it can be anything. There is no misrepresentation going on here. |
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| superperfectnerd | May 30 2018, 09:25 PM Post #30 |
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Nah it would be tens, then hundreds, then thousands. The words change for clarity. If the uni 7s absorbed god ki and are still being slapped around by a fusin who never had god ki then the uni 7 saiyans are pathetic compared to the uni 6. Goku can act all arrogant like he's some experienced master compared to Caulifla but she's stronger than he was before Beerus? That was like 2 years ago, if that. Edited by superperfectnerd, May 30 2018, 09:27 PM.
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