Base Vegito vs Gohan

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Base Vegito vs Gohan
Tweet Topic Started: May 25 2018, 08:39 PM (1,344 Views)
+ Son-Goku	May 25 2018, 08:39 PM Post #1
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Buu Arc Post-Z-Sword Gohan Round 1: Super Saiyan 3 Gohan Round 2: Super Saiyan 4 Gohan
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PocketGod	May 25 2018, 08:42 PM Post #2
Posts: 1,668 Group: Member Member #12,574 Joined: August 22, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Yowamushi Pedal What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk	SSJ4 Gohan > Base Vegito > SSJ3 Gohan Yeah, that's what I'd go with. Probably. Edited by PocketGod, May 25 2018, 08:43 PM.
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Slifer	May 25 2018, 08:51 PM Post #3
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	I've never really settled on where to put Boo-arc Base Vegetto. He definitely one-shots SSJ3 Gohan in round 1. Round 2 is tricky as SSJ4 Gohan would be weaker than Ultimate Gohan. There's nothing concrete saying Base Vegetto can or can't be stronger than Ultimate Gohan so I honestly don't know.



Notaka	May 25 2018, 08:56 PM Post #4
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Well, SSJ2 Gohan himself was though to be able to beat Fat Buu, maybe even Super Saiyan: Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P5.2-4 Context: when the Z Sword breaks, after Gohan trained with it for a day Gohan: “But…thanks to that, my arm strength has increased a lot. That Z Sword was incredibly heavy, after all…Perhaps this was what they meant by me obtaining the greatest power in the world.” Kaioshin: “I-I get it…If he’s acquired that much power in his regular state, then if he becomes a Super Saiyan it will become an even more substantial power-up…! Ye-yeah! That’s it! That’s definitely the greatest power in the world…!” Goku: “…But…Is he greater than Majin Boo?...I wonder…” Though this could be passed off as Kaioshin being optimist. So let's see: SSJ Gohan:10 - SSJ2 Gohan:20 - SSJ3 Gohan:80 - Ultimate Gohan:1680 - SSJ4 Gohan:4000(Yes that huge of a gap between SSJ3 and SSJ4) SSJ3 Goku: 28 SSJ3 Gotenks:1120 Base Vegito(Manga):168 -SSJ:8400 Base Vegito(Anime): 3000 SSJ4 Gohan would win against both the manga and anime version of base Vegito.
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+ Son-Goku	May 25 2018, 08:58 PM Post #5
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	They're merely talking about arm strength and Goku had to wonder if he could even do it. So it's pretty doubtful.
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Notaka	May 25 2018, 09:00 PM Post #6
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Son-Goku May 25 2018, 08:58 PM They're merely talking about arm strength and Goku had to wonder if he could even do it. So it's pretty doubtful. Does "arm" strength really matter ? Kaioshin said that Gohan acquired more power, with Goku even beginning to wonder if he can beat Buu or not. You even have Gohan saying "Perhaps this was what they meant by me obtaining the greatest power in the world." It's an obvious sign that Gohan got stronger all around.
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+ Son-Goku	May 25 2018, 10:59 PM Post #7
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Notaka May 25 2018, 09:00 PM Son-Goku May 25 2018, 08:58 PM They're merely talking about arm strength and Goku had to wonder if he could even do it. So it's pretty doubtful. Does "arm" strength really matter ? Kaioshin said that Gohan acquired more power, with Goku even beginning to wonder if he can beat Buu or not. You even have Gohan saying "Perhaps this was what they meant by me obtaining the greatest power in the world." It's an obvious sign that Gohan got stronger all around. They were only trying to make sense of the information that they currently had though. I undoubtedly believe that all around Gohan got stronger, but it's very specific with arm strength meaning that was the core thing that increased.
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+ Six Trails	May 25 2018, 11:19 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,570 Group: Elite Member Member #11,764 Joined: October 23, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country United States	SS3 Gohan would get a foot through his chest, but I think SS4 Gohan would win handily.



Thiln	May 26 2018, 09:55 AM Post #9
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	My personal interpretation is that Gohan was at the precipice of SSJ2 tier staring across the dividing line into SSJ3. He may not be able to defeat Fat Buu but I don't think he would be utterly helpless neither. In fact, I daresay he could put up a really good fight akin to the hypothetical where Vegeta and Freeza in his first form are going at it with each other. With that said, I don't think SSJ4, much less SSJ3, would be enough to handle Base Vegetto here. Using the arbitrary numbers I personally have, SSJ4 Gohan could have a go of it with a hypothetical KKx20 Gotenks (after training), but anything stronger would be too much.



Dougla$	May 26 2018, 02:32 PM Post #10
Posts: 511 Group: Member Member #6,899 Joined: October 23, 2011	A lot of people have SSJ Vegitto being stronger than SSJ4 Gotenks. This means that Base Vegitto is above SSJ1 Gotenks. Gohan loses both rounds, assuming the SSJ4 is 10x that of SSJ3. Edited by Dougla$, May 26 2018, 02:33 PM.
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+ Pointer	May 26 2018, 02:53 PM Post #11
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Base vegito would obviously lose. Gohan was more than 55 percent of buuhans max



Notaka	May 26 2018, 03:45 PM Post #12
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Son-Goku May 25 2018, 10:59 PM Notaka May 25 2018, 09:00 PM Son-Goku May 25 2018, 08:58 PM They're merely talking about arm strength and Goku had to wonder if he could even do it. So it's pretty doubtful. Does "arm" strength really matter ? Kaioshin said that Gohan acquired more power, with Goku even beginning to wonder if he can beat Buu or not. You even have Gohan saying "Perhaps this was what they meant by me obtaining the greatest power in the world." It's an obvious sign that Gohan got stronger all around. They were only trying to make sense of the information that they currently had though. I undoubtedly believe that all around Gohan got stronger, but it's very specific with arm strength meaning that was the core thing that increased. Dude, Kaioshin flat out states that Gohan acquired much power in his regular state, Goku now wonders if his power is greater than Buu, whereas he was adamant he and Vegeta(who were stronger than Gohan before the training) weren't stronger than Buu, then you actually have Gohan's statement: “Perhaps this was what they meant by me obtaining the greatest power in the world.” It couldn't really be any more obvious, I think this arm strength just refers to how his arm got stronger, therefore he is now stronger. It's probably just a throwaway line tbh.
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Jiren	May 26 2018, 03:47 PM Post #13
Posts: 158 Group: Member Member #13,809 Joined: March 14, 2017	Goku was showing doubts about what Kaioshin said and then Elder Kaioshin said they were wrong



Notaka	May 26 2018, 03:57 PM Post #14
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Jiren May 26 2018, 03:47 PM Goku was showing doubts about what Kaioshin said and then Elder Kaioshin said they were wrong Quote about Elder Kaioshin saying they were wrong? And Goku wasn't showing doubts, he was wondering whereas he was adamant that he and Vegeta couldn't beat Buu on their own and need to beat them, yet starts to wonder if Gohan can actually do that on his own, which means that Gohan is far above both of them.
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+ Six Trails	May 26 2018, 04:22 PM Post #15
Posts: 1,570 Group: Elite Member Member #11,764 Joined: October 23, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country United States	Notaka May 26 2018, 03:57 PM Quote about Elder Kaioshin saying they were wrong? I don't think the scene could've been any clearer: the amazing power was supposed to come from Old Kaioshin all along. The Z Sword was simply overhyped. Trying to give Gohan some absurd power-up based on a super vague statement that all takes place in one page and is contradicted in the next panel is, in my opinion, really reaching. Edited by Six Trails, May 26 2018, 04:26 PM.



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