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Teacher asks for a moment of silence for terrorists
Topic Started: May 22 2018, 02:13 PM (377 Views)
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https://nypost.com/2018/05/19/parents-outraged-at-schools-silent-tribute-for-gaza-victims/

This is a few days ago, but a teacher had asked for a moment of silence for the Palestinian terrorists that were killed by Israeli soldiers. Mind you in the class room there were also a few Jewish students in the room and this made them very uncomfortable, as well as some other students. Also sounds like she was calling the Jews evil. This was over the loudspeaker at the school. I thought this was pretty shocking though.
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It's not terrorism if you're not killing civilians.

EDIT: I don't think a single Israeli soldier was killed.
Terrorist seems like a strong word in this case.
As always, both Palestine and Israel are in the wrong and I don't think we need to dehumanize ourselves by getting outraged over respect for the dead.
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May 22 2018, 02:35 PM
It's not terrorism if you're not killing civilians.

EDIT: I don't think a single Israeli soldier was killed.
Terrorist seems like a strong word in this case.
As always, both Palestine and Israel are in the wrong and I don't think we need to dehumanize ourselves by getting outraged over respect for the dead.
It's a terrorist group, I don't think they were committing terrorism at that specific time.
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May 22 2018, 02:38 PM
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May 22 2018, 02:35 PM
It's not terrorism if you're not killing civilians.

EDIT: I don't think a single Israeli soldier was killed.
Terrorist seems like a strong word in this case.
As always, both Palestine and Israel are in the wrong and I don't think we need to dehumanize ourselves by getting outraged over respect for the dead.
It's a terrorist group, I don't think they were committing terrorism at that specific time.
Just because Hamas supports the protests (most western nations are calling them protests) doesn't mean that all of the protesters are immediately Hamas terrorists.
Hamas is also technically a political movement. Being a member of Hamas doesn't even necessarily mean you're a terrorist.
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I still think it's shocking everyday in schools across the US when they force children to recite a pledge to the US with the words Under God included in it. Only to be later reminded that it's illegal to force children to not only recite it, but to even stand for it. Yet it happens every day.
I don't see how that incident is any more shocking than what I just stated. Considering Hamas doesn't think Hamas are terrorists, rather patriots. It's a classic example of perspectives. The person giving a moment of silence obviously believes that the Palestinians are in the right. The people shocked, don't.

More importantly, do your moments of silence and prayers belong in a public institution that has a mixed background of individuals? To me, it is shocking that people believe that they are allowed to enforce their ideologies on others in a public setting.
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Oh yeah, I do want to say. Teacher shouldn't have done a moment of silence. It's a politically sensitive issue.
But no need to go all pro-Israel on this one call it a moment of silence for terrorists and compare them to ISIS. That's even more absurd IMO.
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Careful now, that language is not PC.

Hamas dindu nuffin. It's all the EVIL YUDEN.
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I literally said both are in the wrong.

But I guess Israel dindu nuffin, It's all the EVIL MUSLIMS.
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May 22 2018, 02:41 PM
I still think it's shocking everyday in schools across the US when they force children to recite a pledge to the US with the words Under God included in it. Only to be later reminded that it's illegal to force children to not only recite it, but to even stand for it. Yet it happens every day.
I don't see how that incident is any more shocking than what I just stated. Considering Hamas doesn't think Hamas are terrorists, rather patriots. It's a classic example of perspectives. The person giving a moment of silence obviously believes that the Palestinians are in the right. The people shocked, don't.

More importantly, do your moments of silence and prayers belong in a public institution that has a mixed background of individuals? To me, it is shocking that people believe that they are allowed to enforce their ideologies on others in a public setting.
I actually stopped doing the pledge during most of high school.
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If anything the pledge of allegiance is social pressure, it isn't forced. I'm not against it at all, but there are many many times I didn't do it in high school.
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May 22 2018, 04:32 PM
If anything the pledge of allegiance is social pressure, it isn't forced. I'm not against it at all, but there are many many times I didn't do it in high school.
The fact that it's social pressure says enough about the inherent nationalism of the average American.
It's something you don't see in other western nations
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This is... An extremely messy situation, and by extremely messy, I mean on one side we have terrorists. And on the other we have genocide being gradually doled out by the Israeli government, colonizing their lands and pushing the Palestinian people out, stealing their property, refusing to let them enter or leave their homes, segregating them from the populace, and more. Frankly I wish the United States would start putting real pressure to get Israel to bring back the borders as they were stated the U.N. Charter, but the United States likes having an ally that will always be supportive no matter what in the middle east.

I assume I do not need to go into detail about Hamas and various other Palestinian militant groups as well here, so I tend to focus on the wrongs done by the Israeli government admittedly. With that said, the teachers holds very strong societal pressure here, and I feel this was not an appropriate use of it overall admittedly, this is a very complicated topic that I feel is difficult to parse out. I certainly know both of these groups must feel hemmed in, one by the Israeli people, the other by the Arab nations (and Iran). Under this, extreme attitudes are bound to develop, and violence is all too easy to inflict on the other. To be honest it feels like something you'd talk about in a political science class, or perhaps history, something in the social studies to introduce the students to genuinely hard questions. Something like this feels... I suppose tone deaf.
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