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| + Pyrus | May 21 2018, 04:23 AM Post #16 |
 
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The poster wasn't meant to be taken that way, though, obviously. It's talking to us as fans to hype up the newest thing. https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/964867063163469825 And if GT is supposed to take place after Super, and V-Jump was acting like this was true, then this would an utter lie. It would be blatantly empty words. |
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| StrenuousSpider | May 21 2018, 04:31 AM Post #17 |
 
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Yah srry if it is called a side story by toriyama its not canon to his story plain and simple. If it cant physically no matter how much you want to twist and turn it fit into the canon its not canon. You cant just ignore the events of super to make GT make sense. Just like you cant no matter how much you try can fit the movies as well it just dose not work. |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | May 21 2018, 12:39 PM Post #18 |
 
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This is Dragonball Super, a series filled to the brim with false statements and blatant empty words that we the fans have had to make excuses for time and time again. This isn't new. |
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| Notaka | May 21 2018, 01:09 PM Post #19 |
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The whole problem is, There's far too much inconsistencies in Super for GT to happen after it. How come nobody mentioned Beerus? Where has SSJB Gone to? Why aren't Kibito and Kaioshin fused? and I'm pretty sure there's other stuff. GT was made before any of these things happened, obviously. Now this wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the fact that Super wasn't made to fit with its timeline, like the Star wars prequel movies did(I think, I don't watch star wars). The way I see it; GT is what would happen if Beerus never bothered to wake up. So the whole "DBGT > Super because it happened after" isn't a valid argument here. Edited by Notaka, May 21 2018, 01:10 PM.
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| Topographic Oceans | May 21 2018, 01:27 PM Post #20 |
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I'm not sure why the concept of different continuities is so hard to grasp. You don't need magazine scans or promotional material to realize that Super and GT are completely disparate continuity-wise and that nobody in Super's production staff was taking GT into consideration.
Edited by Topographic Oceans, May 21 2018, 01:30 PM.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | May 21 2018, 01:53 PM Post #21 |
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Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta weaker than Super Saiyan God? Sheesh, talk about a low-ball of GT. Super Saiyan 4 Goku makes it as far as Golden Freeza. He beats him with the same difficulty Super Saiyan Blue Goku faced, but he doesn't go any farther than that.
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| + Solid Snake | May 21 2018, 03:58 PM Post #22 |
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I mean if Omega Shenron is so strong why not use the Super Dragon Balls to wish him out of existence (and don't give me that crap they can't do it, they brought back universes that were for all intent and purposes erased)? Why would Pilaf bother to use the inferior Black Star Dragon Balls over the Super Dragon Balls, he knows about the lore? GT doesn't line up with anything that Super introduced. |
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| Notaka | May 21 2018, 04:43 PM Post #23 |
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It's not a low ball. Gogeta has never even stated or showed himself to be on Godku's level. Do you have proof for SSJ4 Goku making up until Golden Freeza? GT has no universal busting Characters except Omega via chain reactions, whereas Super had them from the first 15 episodes. |
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| Mike XL | May 21 2018, 04:48 PM Post #24 |
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Super isn't canon to GT, so that fact that it came after timeline wise is irrelevant. |
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| + Pyrus | May 21 2018, 05:08 PM Post #25 |
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Not really an argument against the material here. You're talking about statements, I assume. This isn't a statement made my a character in the show. Edited by Pyrus, May 21 2018, 05:09 PM.
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | May 21 2018, 05:27 PM Post #26 |
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No, I don't have proof Super Saiyan 4 Goku can destroy a universe, but I don't judge what a character's strength on feats. If they matter to you though, there's always Boohan ripping holes in the universe when angered.  Super Saiyan 4 Goku is way stronger than Boohan. |
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| Notaka | May 21 2018, 05:33 PM Post #27 |
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Isn't that scene filler? Also even if you disregard feats, there's still statements. SSJ4 Gogeta is lacking in the department, he doesn't have a statement that puts him on Godku's level. And you can't go to the power scaling as it's been proven numerous times that Super and GT aren't the same continuity. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | May 21 2018, 05:36 PM Post #28 |
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Yes, but even filler is canon to GT. I'm not arguing Super and GT are in the same continuity. I'm arguing if Boohan is this strong, Super Saiyan 4 Goku is stronger, and frankly, I don't see either feat as more impressive. |
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| Notaka | May 21 2018, 05:38 PM Post #29 |
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Fair point. Still I don't think this counts exactly the same as "Destroying the universe". |
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| StrenuousSpider | May 21 2018, 06:26 PM Post #30 |
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Buu is not really destroying anything there. He is strong enough to rip holes yes but not destroy the universe. In buus case it is other dimensions doing the dirty work. Its like a giant boulder being held in place by a small rock. He destroyed the small rock which caused everything to collapse. He is unable to break the boulder but the small rock is no problem. In gokus case its a side effect but still his own power doing so. In omegas case it is his power but it takes time to do so. In gogetas case he still needed his strongest attack to kill or try to kill omega so he is not far off from omgea at least not ridiculously stronger. So if it takes him quite abit of time to destroy universe same goes for gogeta. While goku did more damage with mere punchs then these twos ki based attacks. Ssj4 goku 1 Omega 10 Ssj4 gogeta at least 24 Edited by StrenuousSpider, May 21 2018, 06:29 PM.
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