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How necessary is college
Topic Started: May 8 2018, 03:29 PM (322 Views)
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I know a lot of people in it, as well as see countless people talk about it also. I believe college holds an important role. It’s kinda like the border between having a job and working while still being at school, which is good for some kids considering they’ve never worked or don’t quite understand how life is.

However, I believe there’s some drawbacks, quite serious one at that. Unless you’re rich, have rich parents, if we’re fortunate enough for a scholarship, college is gonna cost you a lot. Iirc, student loans was/is the top unpaid debt in America, that’s inculding mortgages as well. Spending 40k+ on something you may end up not liking seems a bit risky.

Another one of these drawbacks is that you’re never certain on what it is you may want to do, if you are you should consider yourself lucky. From my own experience, school up until college didn’t teach you much about your future and what you’d like to be, that’s expected for you to figure out. I agree you should be able to choose but, you can’t expect teenagers to know what they want to do and what’ll be best for them. That’s not so much on the college though as it is schooling in general.

This is more of a personal opinion but, I will share it anyways due to the nature of the topic. I believe colleges play apart in the continuous cycle of our economy. By that, I mean college is basically producing more cogs for the machines. You see, when you go to college, you’re mainly getting a degree that certifies you for a particular job at a company that’s already established. Now I know there’s many, many people who go and become business owners but, I believe people who are average workers outnumber them. So, you spend four years learning about this, end up in massive debt if you didn’t get help, sometimes even with it, and have to find a job that could be something you dislike very much yet are stuck with. Sure it could pay will but, being miserable isn’t worth any amount of pay.

All in all, I don’t believe college is as necessary as people may think. There are many different alternatives that can earn you the same amount or save you the stress of college. Trade schools are a great example if you were looking for a more labor based job, good for people who can’t stand being cooped up inside. There’s also the simple idea of just following your dream. We live in a day and age where if you liked the Harmonica, you could record yourself playing for others and maybe even gain a following that earns you income.

My main point is don’t let people make you believe college is a necessity in your life. You should always know you have options outside that and can make notnonly a living but, could create your own dream with the right amount of hard work and dedication.
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It definitely depends on what you want to do in life on whether you should go to college. I hear people all of the time saying that everyone needs to go, but I disagree with that. A lot of people become successful without it. But depending on what you want to do, it can be necessary. And yeah, it definitely plunges you into debt and you have to pay that off for like 10 years.
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Definitely high risk and shouldn't be something people feel forced to do. I think it's only worth doing if you have some specific goal in mind. Like If you want to be something like a doctor/engineer/vet\anything that requires it you're going to have to go. But I'm the other hand even if you're unsure there is also the argument that it's a good (expensive) place to go to discover the different options available.

In the end it just comes down to your goals.
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It's not for everyone. You gotta do what's right for you, not what other people tell you you should be doing. I've tried it two times and even though I learned some useful skills, it hasn't led to me finding employment. You can get a master's degree in mathematics and still end up sat on your a** all day.


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The main problem is having people force it on their children or whatever, making them believe they have to do that to be successful. Imo there’s no real definition of success when it comes to life, as long as you can provide for yourself/loved ones and enjoy what you do. College isn’t the answer for everyone so, I believe it should be viewed more as a choice than an obligation.
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May 8 2018, 08:17 PM
The main problem is having people force it on their children or whatever, making them believe they have to do that to be successful. Imo there’s no real definition of success when it comes to life, as long as you can provide for yourself/loved ones and enjoy what you do. College isn’t the answer for everyone so, I believe it should be viewed more as a choice than an obligation.
Some people, (parents), are of the belief that the best chance for their child to succeed in a capitalist society is for them to be competitive in the job market with at least 1 degree backing them. Some of those parents even utilize such options as the 529 savings account. I do think its s***ty for parents to force kids through college with no means of supporting them though.
Depending on what the kid wants to do, they are sometimes right. I know for a fact that I couldn't be an Engineer without one.

You also have to take into account the fact that not everyone is as determined to succeed as others. Not everyone plans to work really hard to achieve their career goals. In fact some don't give a s*** at all. Forcing kids into college is an easy ticket for the child who has no ambition. From the parents perspective, if they manage to finish the degree, at least they'll have opportunities without much prior struggle to succeed. This happens ALL THE TIME with people in IV league schools. Rich parents put their kids through the top college. The kid hasn't ever worked a day in its life, yet has more opportunities ahead of him than 90% of the country.
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College plays a big role in getting hired. It's stupid considering a lot of people get hired to do a job that isn't even exactly what they majored for

The system is f***ed. College is as necessary as ever but school f***ing sucks. Student debt is terrible especially because we have general education classes here in the US that are annoying and just make school cost even more. It's not getting any less competitive either

And the harsh truth is that unless you go to school for something in tech or medical field it's so hard to make it in the real world unless you have really good connections so if you don't choose those majors you might as well just not even go to college
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1. Trade school.
2. Make bank.
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May 9 2018, 06:06 AM
1. Trade school.
2. Make bank.
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Still a school and it still costs money to attend.
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May 9 2018, 10:34 AM
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1. Trade school.
2. Make bank.
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Still a school and it still costs money to attend.
That's true, but it seems like a more worthwhile investment. Too bad there's a stigma around that kind of work.
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May 9 2018, 11:23 AM
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May 9 2018, 10:34 AM
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May 9 2018, 06:06 AM
1. Trade school.
2. Make bank.
:cool:
Still a school and it still costs money to attend.
That's true, but it seems like a more worthwhile investment. Too bad there's a stigma around that kind of work.
It is really really profitable work if you set yourself up as a contractor with permits. You own your own business for it and have a great client base with legit advertising for incoming work.
Even stuff like pulling cables for corporate offices is good money. Contract work for renovating homes cost quite a bit of overhead, but can be profitable because usually people pull out loans for that kind of work.
The hardest part is being the most competitive bidder and still making money.

If you work for someone in a trade, you're not going to bank.

Also some trades come with the hard work and dedication after the degree. For instance if you go for Electrical Engineering, work in a position for Civil Engineering under an EIT certification for four years under a PE, you can then go get a PE certification. That means you're able to notarize designs as, "fit for human use." Every building must be notarized by a PE as safe for habitation. Where the good money comes, is if you do it as a side gig for big business, the notary alone costs the company up to $10k depending on the design, which half of that goes for the registration with the State. Do several of those per week and you're in it.
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