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Why is Goku so important?
Topic Started: May 6 2018, 11:10 AM (531 Views)
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I always wondered why Goku was so important to Earth. Aside from him being the main character, why is he so important to the story? Is it not possible for the series to exist without him? There are so many other interesting characters; Gohan, Vegeta and Piccolo to name a few.

What do you think?
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Well, aside from the fact that Goku is the protagonist, I would argue he embodies the spirit of the series better than anybody. When Gohan was in the lead role, you can't really deny that series changed to accommodate him. The same would no doubt be true if Piccolo or Vegeta were given the lead role.
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I think Future Bulma said it best

Goku is the kind of guy who gives you hope no matter how bad the odds are stacked-up against ya.

At first he may give the impression of meathead, but he will always make sure things work-out in the end

Think about it.

Chibi Goku saved the world from terror of Piccolo Daimou & his offspring Piccolo Jr besides ressurecting his dead comrades.

Goku played major part in everting threats of Saiyans, Frieza & Androids coming-up with secret back-up plans in the form of Kaioken/Genki Dama, SSJ transformation or even training his own blood, Gohan against Cell

Even as side-character in Boo Arc, he still came-up with retaliation plans against Majin Boo by teaching Fusion Dance & setting-up Old Kai's potential unlock regime

Even in GT, Goku's good-will was spread across galaxies enabled him to save universe from eminent destruction at the hands of Shadow Dragons.

You can call Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan or even Yajirobe as interesting or deep characters.

Goku is one of a kind.
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The series is a fighting manga and Goku lives his life around fighting.

The very first arc of the manga is basically more adventure than fighting, and it really shows since Goku basically takes a side role, stepping in just when there's a strong guy to beat.
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Vegeta and piccolo wouldn't be good guys and gohan wouldn't be born if it wasn't for goku so yes he is important to the story
Edited by Ssj3vegito96, May 6 2018, 03:30 PM.
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May 6 2018, 03:30 PM
Vegeta and piccolo wouldn't be good guys and gohan wouldn't be born if it wasn't for goku so yes he is important to the story
I'm not saying replace Goku from the beginning, but writing Goku out of the show for one of the others to replace him. Say after the end of Z, for instance.
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May 6 2018, 04:36 PM
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Vegeta and piccolo wouldn't be good guys and gohan wouldn't be born if it wasn't for goku so yes he is important to the story
I'm not saying replace Goku from the beginning, but writing Goku out of the show for one of the others to replace him. Say after the end of Z, for instance.
Toriyama tried to do that after the Cell saga and there was a lot of backlash from the fans.
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Goku will never be replaced because doing so means changing the nature of the series itself. Dragon Ball is the way it is because of Goku. If you don't like that, this series isn't for you, full stop.
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Dragon Ball will almost always have Goku as front and center, even if the ideas for him have gone stale decades ago. These days he only exists to accept new powerups and tread over the same character-defining moments that he's done way before. And you know, there's appeal to that. For a critical eye it certainly isn't pretty. But this has been the norm for awhile. The characters that get development are side characters, with the main protagonist (Goku) being there simply to drive the plot forward.
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People are afraid of change. After 151 episodes of Dragon Ball, 291 episodes of Z and 131 episodes of Super, fans still want Goku front and centre, entirely unchanged and even when he's not there, the other characters fall short until he arrives.

It is what it is and trying something different is both too risky because it could go wrong and fans may not even give it a chance if it's good because Goku isn't leading.
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I don't see why this series needs to change. Further, I don't see why it needed to continue, but hey, parading around the corpse of a dead series is a quicker and easier way to make money than doing something original.
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Without Goku the world would have been taken over by King Piccolo.

There would be no Gohan and Vegeta would not have ever ended up living on Earth. If the story centred on Vegeta, it could be interesting, but most likely he would just get killed by Freeza one day and without Goku (and his subsequent relationships with Bulma and Trunks) it's unlikely he would have had a change of heart.



Sure, I wouldn't mind him being written out after the Cell Games, since Gohan was ready to take the helm. I always wanted that to happen and I know AT planned to do that, but then decided he didn't think Gohan was main hero material.


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I'm not entirely sure fans is the reason Goku came back. It seemed to be a cognitive decision by Akira Toriyama because he couldn't write Gohan the way he wanted. He had already planted weakness in Gohan from the start, so it was difficult to write him as a good main character.
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May 6 2018, 11:10 AM
I always wondered why Goku was so important to Earth. Aside from him being the main character, why is he so important to the story? Is it not possible for the series to exist without him? There are so many other interesting characters; Gohan, Vegeta and Piccolo to name a few.

What do you think?
None. But in universe it's because he's the strongest hero as of now, the other characters just can't replace him with how Dragon Ball works. You can't even really argue that Dragon Ball would be unable to continue without him considering JoJo continued fine after killing off the main character of part 1. In fact it's flat out better to kick Goku out of the role of main character at this point in the story, he's too strong. It's also a problem with Dragon Ball's setting on a whole, it's too limiting.
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May 7 2018, 08:44 AM
I'm not entirely sure fans is the reason Goku came back. It seemed to be a cognitive decision by Akira Toriyama because he couldn't write Gohan the way he wanted. He had already planted weakness in Gohan from the start, so it was difficult to write him as a good main character.
And that's the jist. I think it's the perfect premise for Gohan to become the main character. He could have learned how to overcome his fears and weaknesses and become responsible. It would have been pretty interesting, actually. Main characters don't necessarily have to be perfect from the start, hence the character development trend. Instead, he was simply thrown from under a skirt to down under another and became one of the dullest characters.

Not even keeping Goku as the main character had been of any help. He started off as the ideal hero who was a bit naive for his age and it was fine like that, but usually it gets unidimensional. There was nothing, on the positive side, that could be improved about him. So they started to make him more and more an anti-hero who rarely learns from his own mistakes. He's pretty much reaching a dead-end, if you ask me. He is no more 'protagonist material' in my view.

The perfect scenario would have been if Gohan became the main character, facing the difficulties that came with both age and role, while having his father as a model just like Goku had Gohan Sr. And if Goku would have eventually been ressurected, he could have stayed by his son's side.

Also, Gohan could have detached himself from under his mom's influence and take his life into his own hands, defining his own personality.

Goku has been a titan of this series, can't argue with that. And brought a lot of value to it. However, dragging a show just for show sake and recycling the main character endlessly can never turn out good.
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