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Do you support Donald Trump
Topic Started: May 3 2018, 01:48 AM (1,704 Views)
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May 5 2018, 03:19 PM
Bill Clinton was charged with impeachment for sexual harassment and two other articles, one involving abuse of power. If Clinton can get called for impeachment on those grounds, Donald Trump can and will definitely be impeached if it happens.
Wasn't he also brought up on perjury too?

I do definitely think the Dems will move to impeach him if they win back the House/Senate, but like I said, that'd open the door of impeachment on partisan grounds.
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That door has been pretty open for a while Smoochy...
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I feel like a lot of people saying "let's impeach Trump" aren't even realizing who would become president if that happened. Mike Pence, who'd I'd argue a lot of democrats would be more scared to have over Trump. He's definitely far more conservative.
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I feel like a lot of people saying "let's impeach Trump" aren't even realizing who would become president if that happened. Mike Pence, who'd I'd argue a lot of democrats would be more scared to have over Trump. He's definitely far more conservative.
Yeah but at least he wouldn't make the US look "as" stupid. Pence is just a little more Fundamental Christian than Bush, which isn't so bad considering he can't make social policies changes with the snap of his fingers. It takes quite a bit of bureaucracy to make those changes.
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I feel like a lot of people saying "let's impeach Trump" aren't even realizing who would become president if that happened. Mike Pence, who'd I'd argue a lot of democrats would be more scared to have over Trump. He's definitely far more conservative.
Yeah but at least he wouldn't make the US look "as" stupid. Pence is just a little more Fundamental Christian than Bush, which isn't so bad considering he can't make social policies changes with the snap of his fingers. It takes quite a bit of bureaucracy to make those changes.
Well I know I wouldn't mind having him over Trump, that's for sure.
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Pence is cool but he seems more like a foolio than Donnie T. Pence can be Pres once Shapiro gets his two terms.
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Political threads are encouraged and should get out of hand more often. It's more fan that way.

Ontopic: No, I don't support him at all. He acts like a spoiled manchild and is obviously not fit to be a president.
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May 9 2018, 04:10 PM
Political threads are encouraged and should get out of hand more often. It's more fan that way.

Ontopic: No, I don't support him at all. He acts like a spoiled manchild and is obviously not fit to be a president.
And yet, here we are, and America is #winning.
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May 10 2018, 07:35 AM
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May 9 2018, 04:10 PM
Political threads are encouraged and should get out of hand more often. It's more fan that way.

Ontopic: No, I don't support him at all. He acts like a spoiled manchild and is obviously not fit to be a president.
And yet, here we are, and America is #winning.
In what way are you winning at what exactly?
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May 10 2018, 07:35 AM
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May 9 2018, 04:10 PM
Political threads are encouraged and should get out of hand more often. It's more fan that way.

Ontopic: No, I don't support him at all. He acts like a spoiled manchild and is obviously not fit to be a president.
And yet, here we are, and America is #winning.
In what way are you winning at what exactly?
His State of the Union was quite comprehensive.
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May 10 2018, 09:50 AM
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May 10 2018, 09:14 AM
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May 10 2018, 07:35 AM
Ginyu
May 9 2018, 04:10 PM
Political threads are encouraged and should get out of hand more often. It's more fan that way.

Ontopic: No, I don't support him at all. He acts like a spoiled manchild and is obviously not fit to be a president.
And yet, here we are, and America is #winning.
In what way are you winning at what exactly?
His State of the Union was quite comprehensive.
It was terrible and once again showed him being a weak speaker.

And even if it had been good, it doesn't excuse all the things he has said before and after. His call into Fox and Friends were filled with lies and contradictions.
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May 10 2018, 09:58 AM
smoochymucci
May 10 2018, 09:50 AM
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May 10 2018, 09:14 AM
smoochymucci
May 10 2018, 07:35 AM
Ginyu
May 9 2018, 04:10 PM
Political threads are encouraged and should get out of hand more often. It's more fan that way.

Ontopic: No, I don't support him at all. He acts like a spoiled manchild and is obviously not fit to be a president.
And yet, here we are, and America is #winning.
In what way are you winning at what exactly?
His State of the Union was quite comprehensive.
It was terrible and once again showed him being a weak speaker.

And even if it had been good, it doesn't excuse all the things he has said before and after. His call into Fox and Friends were filled with lies and contradictions.
I thought it was quite good, had some nice information in there about unemployment and the economy.

And besides, I've never claimed the man was a good speaker, but who cares? It's policy that counts.

Unless you only care about speeches, in which case you can play Reagan and Obama and FDR on a loop.
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You'll have to understand if the dismantling of America's soft power does not strike me as a good thing to have for a nation supposedly dedicated to ensuring peace. You'll have to understand I don't think a man who can't read more than a page without his name being repeatedly in it (and even then it is unlikely) is the one responsible for any sorts of policy changes back home, as well as the fact that the previous president tends to effect the state of the one after. All the president can do here it utilize t he situation to the best ability, either cushioning it or somehow using it to do better.

The biggest thing I can think of that he is responsible for is the shift of the overton window towards Neonazis. As the President and in many ways the personification of the nation, the way he presents himself (and thus the nation), meaning speeches and tweets and whatnot, is important.

To say speeches aren't important is like saying how a painting looks isn't important, or how a car drives isn't important, aside from foreign policy (which is a s*** show to be honest, as I said he's basically hampering any ability to output soft power), it is one of the most important jobs that the president is able to do.
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