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Avengers: Infinity War
Topic Started: Apr 28 2018, 01:39 AM (2,823 Views)
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May 16 2018, 07:48 PM
Looks cool in the comics, sure but I think that one there looks kinda dumb really.


And stealth might not be a huge thing for Black Panther normally but they clearly imply he is a stealthy character by giving him those trainers that make virtually no sound(even though they had no real function in the movie)
Plus how he fought at that scene in the start.

Unless he could also have a silent cape it would be pointless for him to have one here, these movies are by no means "realistic" but they attempt to be slightly more grounded.


Not really though. They have no excuse for not trying to go all out, as I'm pretty sure they're not going for something grounded. Heck if they were they'd be following the comics more faithfully, those tend to be more grounded in reality than these movies, which are set in their own happy universe where comedy solves most problems.

Even if it were going for realism, the cape would make sense, monarchs wear that sort of thing.

Also, tell me, WHERE is it implied that he's supposed to be stealthy? He can be, but like Queen told you, that cape folds and unfolds from behind his back, ala Batman. Either that or he just takes it off like he does most of the time. It's fit for battle and having someone using their cape as a weapon would be a good way to show off how intelligent and strategic they are in the middle of the battlefield.

Not having the cape and just keeping Panther as this dude with tough armor and claws just makes him seem really boring. None of the intellect, none of the endurance, and I doubt they even explained how he got as strong as he is. It's not just all in the armor, T'Challa could still beat the likes of Cap without it.
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Uh, they already explained how he got as strong as he was. Years of training since birth + taking the heart shaped herb. Heck, the guy took on Bucky without armor in civil war and had the advantage against him.

Anyways, now that an Eternals movie has been confirmed. I’m pretty curious to see this. It’ll probably be based off of Gaiman’s run, and once everything is most likely returned in A4, I can see them getting their memories back
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Not really though. They have no excuse for not trying to go all out, as I'm pretty sure they're not going for something grounded. Heck if they were they'd be following the comics more faithfully, those tend to be more grounded in reality than these movies, which are set in their own happy universe where comedy solves most problems.


They are or at least were, that's why all the stuff with Asgard was explained as science rather than magic.

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Even if it were going for realism, the cape would make sense, monarchs wear that sort of thing.


Not all of them and while he's in the Black Panther suit he's a warrior not a show off. It doesn't make sense within the context of the verse and what's happened at all.
He's barely even set in as King yet anyway.
Plus capes aren't really traditional African attire so they probably want to show off more real world stuff considering the cultural significance of the "first" black superhero, most of the time he's wearing normal traditional styled clothes.


Considering a lot of these characters have capes in the comics unless they all suddenly caped up, which would be weird, it would be a bit odd to just have this one dude with a big pretentious cape next to a cast who mostly don't have them.
I suppose there'd be room for some jokes between Thor, Black Panther and Vision there.

Also too many capes takes away from the Cloak of Levitation so I call a formal ban on that as it's the best MCU character.
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And stealth might not be a huge thing for Black Panther normally but they clearly imply he is a stealthy character by giving him those trainers that make virtually no sound(even though they had no real function in the movie)
Plus how he fought at that scene in the start.

Unless he could also have a silent cape it would be pointless for him to have one here, these movies are by no means "realistic" but they attempt to be slightly more grounded.


I'll say it again. Even in the comics he doesn't always have it on. He can easily take it off if scene requires lol. Stealth mention just don't use the cape duh. Casually walking around in his BP suit...yeah he can have it on. Also the MCU ain't grounded at all. Maybe at first but they've recently been upping the scale of things.


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As cool as the Iron Spider suit is I hope it stays broken for the next Spider-Man movie or maybe Pete will refuse to be an Avenger and not use it for whatever reason.
He is way to much Iron Boy right now.


Well the posters and new images of Spiderman 2 he has his own suit. It's implied the Iron Spider is only for Avenger missions or extremely dangerous missions like the one in IW. Him being an "Iron Boy" is fine though insulting. They're obviously building a mentor student role which is perfect if they wanted to do a young Spiderman. Fully expect him to "graduate" by Spiderman 3.
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I'm guessing that was stated in his movie.

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Not all of them and while he's in the Black Panther suit he's a warrior not a show off. It doesn't make sense within the context of the verse and what's happened at all.
He's barely even set in as King yet anyway.
Plus capes aren't really traditional African attire so they probably want to show off more real world stuff considering the cultural significance of the "first" black superhero, most of the time he's wearing normal traditional styled clothes.


Yeah and the people from Wakanda aren't your traditional african city, they're more advanced than most other places on Earth. Also, yes, Black Panther was the VERY first black superhero.

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Considering a lot of these characters have capes in the comics unless they all suddenly caped up, which would be weird, it would be a bit odd to just have this one dude with a big pretentious cape next to a cast who mostly don't have them.


There are less guys with capes on Marvel than with. It's the opposite with DC, but that's another topic. It's not meant to be pretentious, he is the KING.

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I suppose there'd be room for some jokes between Thor, Black Panther and Vision there.


There are already too many f***ing jokes in these movies lol

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Also too many capes takes away from the Cloak of Levitation so I call a formal ban on that as it's the best MCU character.


Like this. Giving the cape a personality is so friggin' dumb. Why turn it into the magic carpet from Aladdin? Just make it a cape.
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Yeah more than stated,, it’s a pretty important plot point of his movie
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"Plus capes aren't really traditional African attire"

Capes are popular in many African tribes and vultures. They're not your comic book capes you see with Superman and crew. They're more realistic and stylish capes.
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I'll say it again. Even in the comics he doesn't always have it on. He can easily take it off if scene requires lol. Stealth mention just don't use the cape duh. Casually walking around in his BP suit...yeah he can have it on. Also the MCU ain't grounded at all. Maybe at first but they've recently been upping the scale of things.
So then...why have it at all if he's just going to take it off most of the time?

True they've been upping the scale but everyone suddenly deciding to have capes would be weird.
It'd only make sense here if the cape was equipped with one of those energy shields but the absorption ability of his suit kinda does the job of making him invincible anyway.

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Also, yes, Black Panther was the VERY first black superhero.


I know he was the technical first but the hype around him was suggesting the first one the big screen, which is just incorrect. Blade is an anti-hero of course but he still counts, Spawn as well and...Steel...oh God why.
Heck, Hancock even.

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Like this. Giving the cape a personality is so friggin' dumb. Why turn it into the magic carpet from Aladdin? Just make it a cape.


How so?
I think it's brilliant that you can tell so much about it's personality just by the way it moves and acts, it's more charismatic and funny than like 80% of the cast :rofl: that's a funny joke in and of itself.
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In the movie dr strange could have opened a portal just when and where thanos wanted to punch, could have waited till his arm with the gauntlet are withij the portal..... could have closed the portal.


Gauntlet is in another place ..thanos has severe damage because of blood loss


Movie ends :D



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Yeah I feel like Doctor Strange shouldn't even have been there or he should have been incapacitated somehow.
Maybe Thanos could have used the Reality Stone to trap him in some weird mind bending s*** that takes him a while to get out of.

The Sorcerer Supreme should really have been a lot more dangerous. He's technically kind of a noob I guess but...just whips man, that's like all he did.


Also I will say though, it's pretty awesome how they still had his hands shaking constantly, glad they don't forget details like that.
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Those “whips” were the crimson bands of cytorrak. And I don’t see how the guy could be even more dangerous. He fought Thanos with 3 stones without the usage of his own and lasted the longest out of anyone on Titan in a 1v1 with the guy(along with displaying transmutation, duplication, official usage of the mirror dimension, and as said previously, using the actual crimson bands)

Now, his movie on the other hand, besides the ancient one, they just seemed, idk, restricted in what they were able to do (although Ragnarok fixed that with Strange’s appearance)

He did more than whips, I guess is what I’m saying (let’s see if anyone gets that small reference)
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So then...why have it at all if he's just going to take it off most of the time?


...Like I said, he can use it as a weapon and to give other countries the idea of who is the leader or on top. That's what a cape's job's always been. It symbolizes superiority in rank or in other ways.

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True they've been upping the scale but everyone suddenly deciding to have capes would be weird.


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>Queen and Darker said only Black Panther
>Which, as a reminder, is only one person out of... over a dozen or two

...Yeah, "everyone". Literally only one other guy and the one who deserves the cape the most.

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It'd only make sense here if the cape was equipped with one of those energy shields but the absorption ability of his suit kinda does the job of making him invincible anyway.


Again. Capes are very useful weapons, and if we can have Strange's cape being his own separate entity with comedic traits and s***, I'm sure we can have Black Panther actually using it efficiently. Heck, NO ONE else is.

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Also, yes, Black Panther was the VERY first black superhero.


I know he was the technical first but the hype around him was suggesting the first one the big screen, which is just incorrect. Blade is an anti-hero of course but he still counts, Spawn as well and...Steel...oh God why.
Heck, Hancock even.


I doubt they hyped him up like that. The MCU higher ups can be dumb, but not THAT dumb.




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Like this. Giving the cape a personality is so friggin' dumb. Why turn it into the magic carpet from Aladdin? Just make it a cape.


How so?

I think it's brilliant that you can tell so much about it's personality just by the way it moves and acts, it's more charismatic and funny than like 80% of the cast :rofl: that's a funny joke in and of itself.


Of course you'd think the Disney prop is brilliant... but Black Panther, a king, without a cape, is dumb...

It's simply not how it should be, it's just cumbersome with such a personality, or can be a nuisance for other heroes, like it has shown in the past. The cape can move on its own in the comics as well, but it's more obedient and less of a thing that acts on its own, because the least these movies need is more comedy, especially coming from things that shouldn't even be acting like humans. How is it funnier than the whole cast in the three scenes it's had (at best)? Captain America telling Hulk to "Smash." in the first Avengers movie was funnier than that. Heck I don't think I've seen a joke in the MCU that surpassed that, because it fit the scene and the characters and it just WORKED. You know what doesn't work? The cape randomly messing with Strange or Spidey for no damn good reason. It's not supposed to have a personality.

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In the movie dr strange could have opened a portal just when and where thanos wanted to punch, could have waited till his arm with the gauntlet are withij the portal..... could have closed the portal.


Gauntlet is in another place ..thanos has severe damage because of blood loss


Movie ends :D


He'd seen every outcome imaginable, and this was the way the best possible outcome. He allowed this to happen on purpose, because otherwise they would've lost. I'm sure Thanos would've broken out and regained his strength before Spidey and Stark had pulled out the IG.

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May 17 2018, 12:54 PM
Those “whips” were the crimson bands of cytorrak. And I don’t see how the guy could be even more dangerous. He fought Thanos with 3 stones without the usage of his own and lasted the longest out of anyone on Titan in a 1v1 with the guy(along with displaying transmutation, duplication, official usage of the mirror dimension, and as said previously, using the actual crimson bands)

Now, his movie on the other hand, besides the ancient one, they just seemed, idk, restricted in what they were able to do (although Ragnarok fixed that with Strange’s appearance)

He did more than whips, I guess is what I’m saying (let’s see if anyone gets that small reference)


...Did he actually say 'Cyttorak'? Hard to believe considering they still don't own Juggernaut or anything related to him.
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Let me ask you guys something

WHY IS GAMORA

I heard Batista improvised this line which is so cool. As an actor, I think I prefer Batista over the rock. He can play serious roles much better imo. The Rock is going to be black Adam after his role in jumanji...how can I take that seriously?
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...You can take Batista seriously, even though 90% of his lines are jokes? It's only when he's talking about his dead wife and daughter that he is taken seriously (and he only talks about those in like what, ten lines in the entirety of the MCU), at least Black Adam isn't gonna be bastardized into a joke like Drax was.
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They're only being compared cause they're forner professional wrestlers. Two different actors with different types of movies they perform in. It's like cimpae8nf Micheal Jackson to Tupac
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