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How come Gohan became so potent?
Topic Started: Apr 25 2018, 04:07 PM (378 Views)
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Don't get me wrong, I loved the (unfinished) idea of him defeating Cell and becoming the new protagonist.

However, when did he exactly become THAT strong?

If we take Garlic Jr saga out of consideration, since it's messed up PL-wise, when everyone got back from Namek / the beginning of the Androids saga Goku was the most powerful from the Z-fighters, followed by Vegeta and Piccolo. (F.Trunks is another topic)

Gohan was kind of far behind them.

They all do their piece of training inside the Time Chamber.

Then bam, Gohan tops everyone.

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Hybrid potential, ssj and ROSAT training with Goku.

Everyone else was slacking somewhat compared to the 9 months Gohan spent training with Goku, in base he wasn't much below base Goku and Vegeta, he just didn't have ssj. Once he had it he was in their league, then mastered ssj and trained with the best trained fighter in the series (Goku).

Vegeta opted not to master ssj and told Trunks to "f*** off" because a true saiyan trains/fights alone etc. Piccolo also had no sparring partner.
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I mean, Gohan wasn't that much weaker than the other base Saiyans. Super Saiyan practically allowed him to catch up alone. Surpassing everyone came down to Gohan's superior potential.
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My theory that Gohan's potential comes from his anger. Since 90% of the times, when he gets a boost it's a rage boost. Him being a Saiyan/Human hybrid is beneficial to him: Humans do seem stronger when they get angry, Saiyans(with the exceptions of Vegeta and Goku) aren't as emotional so they don't get much stronger, however they have a more "natural" mastery of KI.

Gohan combines the best of both worlds; Human emotions and Saiyan's natural affinity for KI, and this is where I believe his potential comes from. So he's kinda like the Hulk, gets stronger the more he's pissed off.

Also IIRC spent more time training Gohan than he spent alone so I guess that's why Gohan came out stronger.
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I never bought the whole "potential/rage" crap till to date

I understand if Toriyama gave Gohan some privileges like "speed" & durability

But not a chance in hell is a kid able to surpass against a future-biotechnologically engineered perfect weapon genetically comprising DNA's of Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, Piccolo....darn

That too got his powers augmented by absorbing 17 & 18...

Just insane man...

Perhaps Goku, Veggie & Trunks all takin on Cell at same time could lead to Cell's defeat

But solo kid tapping into his rage/potential can only go so much....

Was glad Toriyama realized his mistake & undid it with Super Boo
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Apr 26 2018, 11:07 AM
I never bought the whole "potential/rage" crap till to date

I understand if Toriyama gave Gohan some privileges like "speed" & durability

But not a chance in hell is a kid able to surpass against a future-biotechnologically engineered perfect weapon genetically comprising DNA's of Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, Piccolo....darn

That too got his powers augmented by absorbing 17 & 18...

Just insane man...

Perhaps Goku, Veggie & Trunks all takin on Cell at same time could lead to Cell's defeat

But solo kid tapping into his rage/potential can only go so much....

Was glad Toriyama realized his mistake & undid it with Super Boo
Hey, if two teenagers can be augmented to be stronger than Frieza, anything's possible.
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Goku had a very good training regime for Gohan in the time chamber. Let's put credit where credit is due, but of course Gohan's potential had some say.
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I don't know why this is questionable? Gohan has literally surpassed his Dad and Piccolo at every stage of the series. Gohan acquires Super Saiyan and then Goku brings him into a training that seems to draw out one's limits within a year's training. It happened for Piccolo, Gohan and Goku. They all more or less reached their limits in that one year of training.

Gohan has always been stronger than Goku, since the beginning of the series. This is nothing new.

This is also why it's important to note that an angry Teen Gohan in the Buu Saga would surpass Super Saiyan 2 Goku as stated by Goku.
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Apr 26 2018, 02:54 PM
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Apr 26 2018, 11:07 AM
I never bought the whole "potential/rage" crap till to date

I understand if Toriyama gave Gohan some privileges like "speed" & durability

But not a chance in hell is a kid able to surpass against a future-biotechnologically engineered perfect weapon genetically comprising DNA's of Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, Piccolo....darn

That too got his powers augmented by absorbing 17 & 18...

Just insane man...

Perhaps Goku, Veggie & Trunks all takin on Cell at same time could lead to Cell's defeat

But solo kid tapping into his rage/potential can only go so much....

Was glad Toriyama realized his mistake & undid it with Super Boo
Hey, if two teenagers can be augmented to be stronger than Frieza, anything's possible.
Just like Ultron (teenagers) & Loki (Frieza)

17 & 18 at least delivered asswhopping to SSJ Trunks & Vegeta to solidify their position superior to Frieza

All Gohan did was BAM! Become SSJ inside ROSAT

And Goku suddenly givin build-ups to his son after quiting against Cell

And Gohan gave nother build-up calling Goku vs Cell as "Goku not fighting for real"

Sigh....
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Gohan was often stronger than Piccolo when angry, going all the way back to the start of Z. Against Raditz his headbutt was more powerful than all of Piccolo's melee attacks. Against Nappa, Piccolo himself stated that Gohan was stronger than him if he put his mind to it and Gohan was able to do as much damage to Nappa as Piccolo did - even though Nappa was ready for Gohan, whereas Piccolo had caught him off guard (when he was about to finish off Tenshinhan).

Against Freeza, Piccolo is stronger than enraged Gohan and that persists through to the Cell Games. When Gohan has been training and is enraged, he is almost always stronger than Piccolo. Gohan's raw potential to gain power is much greater than Goku's, but Goku has had better training (due to his drive to become stronger and luck), such as training with Kaio and training at 100x gravity. In one year,

Gohan going SSJ2 (after training for one year) was his potential - which had previously only been shown when he was enraged - coming to full fruition. In SSJ2 it's as if his base form is enraged and then he gets a SSJ and SSJ2 multiplier on top of that.
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