SuperSaiyanMastaDon

Mar 16 2018, 12:04 AM

Super Saiyan = 50x
Super Saiyan Grade 2 = 2x
Super Saiyan 2 = 2.5x
Super Saiyan 3= 2.5x
Super Saiyan Grade 3 = 3x

Notaka

Mar 24 2018, 08:51 AM

Nope.

I believe Super Saiyan Full Power, or Mastered Super Saiyan is no different than Super Saiyan, except that the user feels more natural; It has less strain and most importantly rids of that agitated feeling, rendering the user calm and level headed in a fight. So it isn't always about power, There's other factors.

Since everyone posted their multipliers:
MSSJ/SSJ: 50x Base
Grade 2:62.5x Base
Grade 3:75x Base
SSJ2:100x Base
SSJ3:400x Base

If I had to put some of the non canon forms: LSSJ would be more or less SSJ2 Level. So 120x Base works for me.
SSJ4 is huge, too huge. I have it EoGT around 160,000x Base.

Dagon

Mar 24 2018, 09:33 AM

Notaka

Mar 24 2018, 08:51 AM

Nope.

I believe Super Saiyan Full Power, or Mastered Super Saiyan is no different than Super Saiyan, except that the user feels more natural; It has less strain and most importantly rids of that agitated feeling, rendering the user calm and level headed in a fight. So it isn't always about power, There's other factors.

Since everyone posted their multipliers:
MSSJ/SSJ: 50x Base
Grade 2:62.5x Base
Grade 3:75x Base
SSJ2:100x Base
SSJ3:400x Base

If I had to put some of the non canon forms: LSSJ would be more or less SSJ2 Level. So 120x Base works for me.
SSJ4 is huge, too huge. I have it EoGT around 160,000x Base.

Your gap between Grade 2 and SSJ1 is kind of small, considering that initial Semi-Pefect Cell was somewhere close to SSJ1 Vegeta in power, then powered up a notable amount, and was still weaker than SSJ Grade 2 Vegeta.

Then, you have a smaller gap from Grade 2 to Grade 3. Warm-up Perfect Cell tanked a kick from Grade 2 Vegeta, then Trunks became far stronger than that level of Cell, by Cell's own words. To fit all that in, you would have to believe that Cell can tank a kick from Vegeta with a 1.1x gap.

Dragon Ball Super kind of confirms or infers that SSJ Grade 3 has more power level than SSJ2 when Trunks was sparring with Vegeta.

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Dragon Ball Super kind of confirms or infers that SSJ Grade 3 has more power level than SSJ2 when Trunks was sparring with Vegeta.

Notaka

Mar 24 2018, 10:22 AM

There's a 1.25x gap between SSJ and Grade 2, and a 1.2x gap between Grade 3 and Grade 2.

A 1.25x is enough to turn the fight in your favor if the you and your opponent were close in power. Also, I don't believe Cell did power up that much. He's strong enough to be confident on taking SSJ Vegeta, but somewhere during the Power up starts getting worried. I have him barely above SSJ Vegeta.

You make a fair point for Grade 3, though. However, Gaps aren't as consistent as you think they are; Vegeta with a power level of 24,000 was dominating Zarbon, who at the very least has 22,000(Some guide books peg him at 23,000). That's a 1,09x gap between the two of them.

If I had to work with numbers:
SSJ Vegeta:1
Assj Vegeta:1.25
Semi Perfect Cell:0.9
Full Power Semi Perfect Cell:1.1
Assj Trunks:1.2
Perfect Cell:1.4
USSJ Trunks:1.5

The gap between Perfect Cell and Assj Vegeta is larger than the one between Zarbon and Vegeta, and the gap between USSJ trunks and Perfect Cell is small enough to make Trunks the stronger of the two but without making it an easy fight for him.

I might change USSJ from 1.5x SSJ boost to 1.75x Boost, but ASSJ works fine in my numbers.

Notaka

 

When ? I always thought that Grade 3 is like an inferior version of SSJ2. At best, I'd have Grade 3 at the level of SSJ2.