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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Feb 23 2018, 10:20 AM Post #1 |
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I've heard people ask why people are against eating dogs and cats if they eat cows, pigs, etc. because they're the same thing I don't agree. Dogs and cats and pigs and cows are all animals and I feel for the all but I will never have them on the same level. Dogs and cats are not food. They're domesticated to be companions. How can you say that's the same as eating a cow? Or a fish? Or a chicken? It's not like countries like vietnam HAVE to eat dogs and cats anymore. It's a bulls*** tradition. They aren't in constant war anymore. I'm sure they can eat anything else Do you agree with people who say eating dogs and cats is the same as eating something like cow meat? Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Feb 23 2018, 10:21 AM.
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| Darker | Feb 23 2018, 10:57 AM Post #2 |
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This is the first time I hear of someone claiming dogs and cats are the same as cows, that's a hilariously wrong statement. |
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| + Steve | Feb 23 2018, 11:11 AM Post #3 |
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I have mixed views on this, mostly leaning on no. But first of all ABSOLUTE NO if the animal was a pet beforehand, that's disgusting. Pets are family and selling them to be eaten or eating them yourself just because is a horrible thing to do unless you genuinely have nothing else, in which case I'd question why you had pets in the first place. Cats I see no point in eating anyway since they're so small and not very meaty, plus they're great workers in terms of pest control so eating them all is just a bad idea all round. I can't even imagine them tasting nice, probably all stringy muscle. Now dogs on the otherhand...I'm not a fan of it but if people want to eat them then whatever, so long as they're not tortured, were brought up well and it's not part of some s***ty festival. As well as that places where other meats aren't as readily available, dogs seem like such a pointless thing to raise and eat unless you're utterly desperate. There are so many better things you can and should do with a dog however. Personally I feel like they shouldn't be eaten at all because of their massive contributions to our existence, similar to horses(though not so much these days) Dogs have been a critical part of our survival over the millennia and I feel they deserve that extra level of respect, they go hand in foot with human kind and there's a good chance we wouldn't exist without them given that they used to guard us at night when we had some very real predators. The argument that "Oh they're just another animal so it should be fine if eating others is" doesn't sit well with me, they're a fantastic companion species, no way are they on the same level as the veritable cannon fodder that is say the cow. Sentience alone doesn't quantify to contribution, being food doesn't make an animal as important as a friend. And if we're talking sentience no animal is as brilliant as the dog, if there's an animal then there's probably a dog that's made friends with it somewhere be it a Dachshund that made friends with some lions, a Labrador that's friends with a seal or a Golden Retriever that's best friends with a duck. Second to humans they're easily the most outwardly loving and empathetic animals we know of. Even as far back as wolves canines have reached out to humans and other animals for companionship or even just a bit of playtime, until some f***er with a gun ruins it of course. If value is to be placed on life, dogs should definitely be second to humans. Edited by Steve, Feb 23 2018, 11:12 AM.
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| + Pelador | Feb 23 2018, 12:07 PM Post #4 |
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I don't think the issue is that they are food, the problem is how they are killed. It's horrific. Livestock isn't boiled and skinned alive. Farm animals are also kept in way better conditions. |
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| * Mitas | Feb 23 2018, 12:34 PM Post #5 |
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No difference at all. It's fine if you feel personally that you couldn't eat a certain animal because you like that one more than others, but just know that it's hypocritical. |
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| + Steve | Feb 23 2018, 12:41 PM Post #6 |
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It's often used as a poor argument for why we shouldn't eat meat, the idea presumably being that if you wouldn't eat a dog or a cat you're not committed to eating meat and you know it's outright wrong to do so. Which is silly really because meat eating isn't some sort of ideal where the goal is just to consume all things, it's about eating food for sustenance...
Yeah, that s*** makes my blood boil "They taste better if they're made to suffer more" f*** off. That's just barbaric through and through, even if that had some basis in science it's pure evil to do that just for more flavour. At least with the likes of lobsters, while boiling them alive is still pretty f***ed up, they genuinely become poisonous within minutes of being killed. Not that lobsters are an essential food source anyway.
If this is the case then, potential diseases aside, what's morally wrong with eating another human? If everything is fair game everything should be fair game. Edited by Steve, Feb 23 2018, 12:47 PM.
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| Southern Gothic | Feb 23 2018, 06:45 PM Post #7 |
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On a personal level, I do feel they are very different animals. But morally, I don't see any difference. There is the history between the various animals and people. Humans have had domestic uses for cats and dogs. Pigs, cows and chickens have long been food. So there's some hundreds of years of relations there that make me feel differently. At the same time, there are places in the world where markets sell cats and dogs for food because that's what they have. It is very relative, but as I said, my own personal emotions do value cats and dogs above all other animals. A cat is still pretty darn useful nearly anywhere you live even these days. Still the safest and most reliable pest control. So long as you get them fixed, otherwise they are terrible. |
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| Daemon Keido | Feb 23 2018, 09:10 PM Post #8 |
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As a farmer, I have had many pets and many livestock meant for meat. I have even seen cattle kept as pets. I would never eat any animal that was treated as a pet all through its life. But if that animal was raised purely for its meat, i can't say I'd be as against it, presuming the meat meets human consumption standards. |
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| + Steve | Feb 23 2018, 09:47 PM Post #9 |
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I'd still say it's ultimately a waste of a good resource, at least with dogs. If you need food it'd be better to get a dog that can hunt with you than to eat it, teach a man to fish and all that. Dogs are amazingly useful and easy to train, I've heard of many animals being pets but I've never heard of cows that can detect illegal drugs or even cancer, pigs that provide emotional and physical therapy, sheep that lead the blind or otherwise disabled, chickens that take down criminals or save people from burning buildings. You can even train dogs to sense when someone is about to have a seizure, notify the person so they can prepare and then the dog can make sure the person doesn't injure themselves, as well as helping them regain consciousness. Unless an animal is already dead I see no reason to view them all as nothing more than slabs of meat of equal value, if all animals were equal we wouldn't always put ourselves above them regardless. |
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| GreatSaiyaman123 | Feb 23 2018, 10:25 PM Post #10 |
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Someone might as well argue we should create pigs and cows at home if all animals are on the same level. Nothing wrong about that but... It's weird. |
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| + Son-Goku | Feb 23 2018, 11:50 PM Post #11 |
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Difference is we specifically raise cattle for food and we have domesticated dogs for pets. So of course to us it doesn't seem the same. I mean, it'd be one thing if the dogs weren't pets or were wild or something. My brother's girlfriend's family has a pet cow that they've had as a pet for years. It'd be just as jacked up if they ate that if they ate their current dog. That's my opinion anyways. |
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