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Who in history was truly evil?
Topic Started: Feb 20 2018, 05:41 PM (374 Views)
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First of all, what makes a person evil? That's a whole deep discussion in itself which I have made a thread about before. Personally I think that it's very simple to tell. There are two options.

A: Do they derive pleasure from causing harm to others, including animals?
B: Are they incapable of feeling empathy?

A person can have both of these traits or just the one. Either way I consider them to be what would make a person evil. Of course that's just my belief. I welcome other opinions on the subject.

So regardless, who do we believe was genuinely evil?

I'm going to say Joseph Stalin. Based on what I've read, the man was cold as ice. He had no remorse about sending millions to their deaths to further his own agenda. He didn't believe in helping his country like Hitler did. He only cared about consolidating his own power. For himself. I think his lack of emotions and brutality make Joseph Stalin one of history's few, genuinely evil people.

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Stalin, Hitler, Bin Laden, Saddam, and the Kim Jong family to name a few. And that's only accounting for the past 100 years.

And really that doesn't account for people who aren't famous political figures. Regular day-to-day people could be sick, cruel people with little to no redeeming qualities.
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Do you think commanding horrific acts like the Nazi genocide make's Hitler evil even he thought it was for the good of the world?


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Hitler believing he was working towards the greater good of the world just makes him even more sick and twisted for what he did.
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Most dictators of the time thought what they did was right, their crazy mentalities could still be considered evil to a degree though.
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This is a tough one to answer because you'd have to really know the person's inner thoughts and intentions. Hitler was an amazing orator and it's not outside the realms of possibility that he was just spouting bulls*** and was only interested in his own position and power. I'd also argue that it can be considered evil to commit horrific acts, even if you believe it's for the good of your own country. Hitler's persecution of Jews and other groups is evil, regardless of his intent.
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Your actions might be evil or cruel but that doesn't necessarily mean you are depending on why you carried them out.


I would say most political figures probably wouldn't have got as far as they did if they were truly evil.

So for who is actually genuinely evil, probably serial killers, particularly those who feel no remorse for what they did, casually telling the parents of victims what they did to their children and whatnot.
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Feb 20 2018, 07:24 PM
Hitler believing he was working towards the greater good of the world just makes him even more sick and twisted for what he did.
So doing something bad with good intentions is worse than doing something bad with bad intentions?
I disagree completely.

Hitler and Stalin are easy, but not really thought through answers.

I would go for someone like Vlad the Impaler, Ivan the Terrible, Caligula, Nero, These were people with no further agenda to their atrocities. No good intentions whatsoever.
If you want a Nazi in there, go for someone like Joseph Mengele
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I think anyone who kills for political reasons, to make a point, are close to being evil. Especially if those you kill are promising young kids within politics.
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Hitler believing he was working towards the greater good of the world just makes him even more sick and twisted for what he did.
So doing something bad with good intentions is worse than doing something bad with bad intentions?
I disagree completely.

Hitler and Stalin are easy, but not really thought through answers.

I would go for someone like Vlad the Impaler, Ivan the Terrible, Caligula, Nero, These were people with no further agenda to their atrocities. No good intentions whatsoever.
If you want a Nazi in there, go for someone like Joseph Mengele
I wouldn't say they're poorly thought-through. They're individuals who lacked empathy and caused an untold number of deaths. There's not really any evidence to say that they even had any good intentions at all.
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Hitler believing he was working towards the greater good of the world just makes him even more sick and twisted for what he did.
So doing something bad with good intentions is worse than doing something bad with bad intentions?
I disagree completely.

Hitler and Stalin are easy, but not really thought through answers.

I would go for someone like Vlad the Impaler, Ivan the Terrible, Caligula, Nero, These were people with no further agenda to their atrocities. No good intentions whatsoever.
If you want a Nazi in there, go for someone like Joseph Mengele
In this case, I would say yeah. It's puts him right up there with someone with just kills for fun.

He thought that killing millions of Jews would somehow be for the benefit of the world. His ideology is so sick and twisted he might as well have the intent of just killing for fun.
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I heard Vlad did what he did to scare away the barbaric invaders of his country, by outdoing them in psychological warfare. It's an evil act, but it saved his country.
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