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Topic Started: Feb 15 2018, 01:39 AM (5,118 Views)
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It has been challenged. Nothing changed. You can’t set up shop in English. So long as your signs are in French as well. And the French text is usually 3x bigger than the English text.


You’re still forced to send your kids to French school


I could be wrong but they are also lobbying to have you speak in French (dually)if you work at a place of service. Example. You’re a cashier. Someone comes in. You must say “hello” in both languages or only in French

So yeah. Free speech is not a fundamental human right in Canada

I’m not saying you’re totally wrong. But I have to have it in both languages if I’m english. But not if I’m french. How is that freedom in any tangible way? It’s not
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Those are only true in Quebec and that has always been the case. You are ignoring the rest of Canada to use only the part you can use for your arguement, and even then you are using outdated information.

You still have the rigjt to free speech in Canada. In either English or French. So stop it.
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It’s not outdated. That’s how it is today. And like I said “some parts of Canada’s “ are like that. Thank you for making my point.
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The parts of Canada you are claiming are not using it to the degree you claim. So you are still wrong. Have you ever been to Quebec? Experienced these laws enactings personally? I have. And so I know you are wrong.
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51. Every inscription on a product, on its container or on its wrapping, or on a document or object supplied with it, including the directions for use and the warranty certificates, must be drafted in French. This rule applies also to menus and wine lists.
The French inscription may be accompanied with a translation or translations, but no inscription in another language may be given greater prominence than that in French.
1977, c. 5, s. 51; 1997, c. 24, s. 24.


Straight from the book of law.

http://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/C-11
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And? In the rest of Canada it is the reverse because they are predominantly English speaking. What is your issue with a PREDOMINANTLY FRENCH PROVINCE doing the majority of its commerical and government concerns IN THE PREDOMINANTLY FRENCH PROVINCE'S LANGUAGE, which is as may be forgotten.......FRENCH?

Your concern with free speech is useless. You have free speech in Quebec. They prefer it in French. But I imagine you prefer America's to be in English.

But if you want to talk about limitations.....enjoy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions
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No kidding. You can’t say anything that threatens someone else’s free speech or right to self preservation

Like yelling out threats (fire in a theatre) when there isn’t one

You said it yourself.

How is it free speech if You have to say it in another language than your country’s official language. It’s not freedom.
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So don't act like America's freedom of speech is not without its limits like Britain or Canada. We just have different limitations.

By the way, Canada has two official languages. French and English.
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Obviously. If you yell out fire in a theatre and i pull the fire alarm (there’s not fire ) the firemen come. The ambulance come. Then an actual fire happens. And someone unfortunately died because you yellws our fire when there wasn’t one

Again.


How is it free speech if Youre forced to say it in another language than your country’s official language. It’s not freedom.
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I have edited in my response to your question already.
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the UK does not have freedom of speech. Well technically they do on paper. But practically they don’t. You can’t write an article criticizing parliament, it always goes through an injunction. There’s no freedom of the press. The UK’s freedom of speech in more flexible than America’s.
Lol you're clueless. Every other article in British newspapers criticises parliament.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/07/what-is-a-super-injuction-and-can-you-get-one/

See what I mean. The UK’s freedom of speech is not even well protected, alright alright LESS protected than America’s. No freedom of the press.

Edit : so? What’s your point if they have 2 official languages daemon. They have 2 official languages but in some parts you’re stripped of writing in one of them. Without the other . Nope not freedom.
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Once again, it is not a matter of being stripped, it is a matter of preference. But if you won't admit where you were wrong, it hardly matters.

Besides, you never did answer MY question earlier: have you ever been to Quebec?
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It’s not a matter of preference. It’s a mandatory law. And yes I have ;)
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I don’t have that much faith in a centralized government. I’ll tell you that much.


So you're just paranoid then because you have absolutely no reason to believe otherwise.

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Correct me if I’m wrong. But you guys are all saying there should be a standard placed on buying a firearm. There already is. A standard. You can’t buy a gun if your a felon, a violent criminal or mentally unfit. You can’t.


This is just simply incorrect, half these people own guns legally and are clearly f***ed up.
Just because something is a law does not mean that it's properly done.

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the UK does not have freedom of speech. Well technically they do on paper. But practically they don’t. You can’t write an article criticizing parliament, it always goes through an injunction. There’s no freedom of the press. The UK’s freedom of speech in more flexible than America’s.


Pffffft where the hell do you get this from?

So you never heard of the whole business with the media mocking David Cameron for allegedly sticking his dick in a pigs mouth in some sort of hazing ritual?

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about here, we have every right to speech that isn't threatening or hateful.
We mock our government all the damn time, Lord Buckethead being a political candidate should surely make you see that.

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See what I mean. The UK’s freedom of speech is not even well protected, alright alright LESS protected than America’s. No freedom of the press.


...you realize that's basically just protection against slander or the media talking about private details, right? It keeps things anonymous when it goes through, so that the public won't learn any details of court hearings and such.

Much the same as how in the US a celebrity can have the media prohibited from releasing any sex tapes they've acquired of said celebrity.


I'm not sure what you think that is but it's not a "erase all information and never let anyone talk about me again" button that anyone can press at a moments notice, it's a pretty big legal undertaking and doesn't happen very often anyway.
Nor does it have much relevance to the majority of the populace.
That is just not what you think it is.

That's a pretty crap argument towards us not having free speech.


But anyway, we should probably bring back some mention of guns.

If you already have the ultimate free speech why would you worry about them taking your guns when you're free to speak out about it anyway?
I have no idea why free speech is relevant to the ridiculous ease with which a US citizen can acquire a deadly weapon and go murder people with extreme efficiency.
Free speech doesn't extend to a right to murder people on a whim.
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